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Currently assembling and painting 30+ Bikes. Any tips and suggestions welcome please.

Fortifications:
Aegis Defense Line with Quad Gun (100)

HQ:
Captain "Gaius Praxima" on Bike
-Relic Blade, Storm Shield, Artificer Armour, Hellfire Rounds (205pt)

*Company Command Squad on Bikes
-4 Lightning Claws, 4 Plasma Guns, 4 Storm Shields (385)

Troops:
Space Marine Bike Squad (1 Sergeant, 4 Marines, 1 Attack Bike)
-2 Plasma Guns, Multi-Melta on Attack Bike (220)

Space Marine Bike Squad (1 Sergeant, 4 Marines, 1 Attack Bike)
-2 Plasma Guns, Multi-Melta on Attack Bike (220)

Space Marine Bike Squad (1 Sergeant, 4 Marines, 1 Attack Bike)
-2 Melta Guns, Melta Bomb, Multi-Melta on Attack Bike (220)

Space Marine Bike Squad (1 Sergeant, 4 Marines, 1 Attack Bike)
-2 Melta Guns, Melta Bomb, Multi-Melta on Attack Bike (220)

Scout Squad With Sniper Rifles
-Sergeant Telion, Camo Cloaks (140)

Heavy Support: (300)
Thunderfire Cannon
Thunderfire Cannon
Thunderfire Cannon

2000pts Exactly
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Idea is to keep Telion and Scouts behind an aegis with Quad Gun to shoot something turn 1 and then pop Flyers or Necessary Threats turn 2+.
Not really sold on the Command Squad. Its my only dedicated CC unit but a point sink, with DA: RW command Squad looking to be getting Twin-linked Plasma might consider running an allied detachment of them or so. That or for points 10 Sternguard that can be Dropped behind enemy line for some Alpha strikes.
Perhaps dropping 1 TFC and something else to grab a Vindicator.

I would drop the command squad.

There just not points efficient. I personally have one (on bikes) and almost never run them. For almost 100 points less you caould take a while nother 10 man bike units that is scoring and 2 times as many wounds.

I also dont think you need the relic blad and storm shield on the captain. Makes him expensive and hes just never going to be good in close combat. Stick to fast moving shooting and you will be ok.

List seems ok. I see your telion unit and its purpose. I dont know if you are allowed FW units at your local events/store but where I am we are and I use a contemptor.

230 points av 13 12 assualt cannon shots and 2 cyclone missiles with skyfire and interceptor. Insane.

If your dead set on the aline its good too. Only probelm is the best flyers are armor 12, vendettas and helldrakes are the worst for you. I would take the icarus las cannon is your habing a bs 5 model shotting it as the s9 makes a huge difference.

The sternguard are a great utility unit and are great for the alpha. Only prob is they have no movement after that turn one so you really need to sepport them with the bikes or its a 250+ points sink.

I wouldn't get the vindicator, not in a list like this. It probably get focused fired to death before doing anything meaningful for you.

Bike army command squads are nasty, though yes, a point sink. Find a way to give them an apothecary, as it means that people have to invest 50% more dakka per wound. I've not a ton of experience with bike armies, but this one looks decent, use the plasma and meltas to pop transports, then T-fire them to oblivion.

Use your speed to maneuver yourself into positions in which you can focus on one or two units at a time, take em apart, then move on.

I think this list could work, just drop the artificer armor and the hellfire rounds, and a few other tiny things to get an apothecary in that unit.

No! Dont drop the hellfire rounds or art armor!

Those items are the key to his success. Your ability to wound on 2+ is key for dealing with monstrous creatures and just inflicting auto woundage. You also want the 2+ so you can eat up missiles and other such things from ruining your units.

I agree that the vind seems slow and I wouldn't field it unless you fielded 2.

I really don't think that hellfire rounds are going to help him much here. Let's look at how good a twin linked bs 5 2+ bolter is against the ubiquitous tervigon, shall we?

a twin linked bs 5 means that you're hitting 35/36 times, so we will call that a negligible miss chance.

5/6*1/3 * 2(for rapid fire) = 5/9 chance of causing a wound

Now, don't get me wrong, 10 points for 5/9ths of a wound is great, except, this is on a CC unit, so you're paying for this upgrade that you probably won't get a ton of use out of, as good as it is against monstrous creatures.

also, looking at his army list again, a single burst of helfire rounds is hardly *key* to an army that has all that plasma and melta. That's where he's going to get his anti-MC dakka.

here are the odds for bs 4 plasma, vs same target:
2/3*2/3*2(again, rapid fire) = 8/9 of a wound.

And he's gonna have 4 of those from his command squad, true, the addition of helfire rounds would put the result of such an output up to a straight 4 wounds statistically, but those same points could be put towards a powerfist instead of a LC, or some other upgrade which could do the same thing, but against a wider array of targets, like vehicles er something.

Also, forgot that apothecaries came with the command squad, derp.

The command squad is simply overpriced. You can take another 10 man with 2 plasmas for less points. I done see a comparison.

Most tourney bike lists like the hellfire. Personally I do as its 2 auto wounds a turn basically.

Bikes should never be a cc army or even units. A bike command squad is only slightly more survivable due to toughness than regular power armor marines. Just an opinion :-)


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Powerfists are much worse this edition. Challenging makes them mediocre and as you said he has melta and plasma so why add a fist?

This army performs much more efficient as mobile shooting platforms. I don't see a need for cc units if all of theirs are dead.

I would get Typhoon Speeders if you are worried about Monstrous Creatures. They are mobile, relatively cheap, and can keep up with the bikes (and with the theme).

I'd drop the Command Squad and Scouts and get 3 Typhoon Speeders.

Well, you could just downgrade the scouts to something plain (75pt squad), have them man the Aegis gun, and still get 3 Typhoon Speeders.

If you just used two, you could keep Telion. Meh, I'd rather the Two ML shots and 3 HB shots to go with it.

So if I dropped Telion, the Scouts, and the Quadgun I would have 625pts to spare. Granted this is a WIP would a contemptor dreadnought or 2 make a difference in this list?
If not perhaps waiting on a small attachment of RW from the new DA book around the corner.
Any suggestions appreciated.

The contemptor is unreal. 13 12 11 av 12 s6 rending shots a turn and a cyclone missile launcher. Bs5 to boot!

Also it has a 5+ inv.

Plus sky fire and interceptor.

I run one with my bikes. Amazing.

Have you considered Kor'sarro Khan?

Although khan is good he is more points for basically no gain. I don't think this army likes cc and that makes his alittle worse. Plus his save is worse.

The Biker Captain is basically your big game hunter. Hammer, shield and artificer armor is all you need. Think of him as a more mobile unit of TH/SS Termies that can hide in a unit.

Command Squad is crazy expensive for 1 wound models. They die like normal marines against Tesla Destructors and similar weapons, but cost 5x as much.

Basic bikers look fine, though springing for melta bombs across the board would be a wise investment.

The gunline support looks fine.

The points freed up from that Command Squad could go towards a pair of Storm Talons or Attack Bike Squadrons for more mobile heavy weapons.

My bike list had a similar captain but I wasn't sure about the storm shield since he already came with an Iron Halo.

That hammer unit is there to do maximum damage to a unit that has to be killed. Its still a tough unit to kill with toughness 5, 3+invuln save, and FNP. I put a few hammers in my squad to put heavy hits in.

I also used the Attack bikes as my heavy support instead of thunderfire.

HQ
Captain on bike with Relic blade and Melta bombs, artificer armor, hellfire rounds, storm shield, digital weapons. 220pts

Command Squad on bikes with Company champ with storm shield and power weapon, apothecary, Veteran storm shield/thunder hammer/company banner, veteran with thunder hammer/storm shield, veteran with thunder hammer and storm shield. 385 pts

Troops

Bike squad with Sgt with combi melta, 5 marines with 2 meltas, attack bike multi melta 245pts

Bike squad with Sgt with combi melta, 5 marines with 2 meltas, attack bike multi melta 245pts

Bike Squad with Sgt with Combi Flamer, 5 marines with 2 Flamers, attack bike with heavy bolter. 225pts

Bike Squad with Sgt with Combi Flamer, 5 marines with 2 Flamers, attack bike with heavy bolter. 225pts

Fast Attack

Attack bike squad with 3 bikes multi meltas 150 pts.

Attack bike squad with 3 bikes multi meltas 150 pts.

Storm Talon with skyhammer missles 155

Nothing on the list slows down and the hammer unit can bust almost anything in the game with 3 attacks on charge and their durability. With the captain leading them they are stout. I have another version with a Librarian. Still haven't been able to play the list due to models not being in my hands for it. I just stuck with the theme and kept everything mobile and added some air support.

So how do attack bikes fair against storm talons? Are talons worth the points. Local meta seems to favor CSM mostly running Kharn or typhus zombies. So far no flying turkeys but GK and BA running Storm Ravens sometimes. Also combimelta or combiflamers?

The problem with storm talons are low armor and only 2 HP... Way to go gw dropping the ball on the SM flyer.

I think though you need anti flyer and at least you have the option for them. As compared to other races flyers they are one of the worst for their points.

Can they intercept the other flyers? If not, I would skip them entirely and just put in attack bikes.

A flyer has skyfire vs other flyers but not interceptor. No flyers have interceptor.

So basically with low armor and 2 hull points they get trashed by opposing flyers pretty easy.

I am waiting for the new Dark Angels codex to come out and possibly relieve my design problems with the new rules within.

I'd drop the lightning claws and storm shields from the command squad and keep it pure plasma. You don't want CC with a bike army unless it is to hide from other shooting/finish somehting week off. I'd also drop 1 of the thunderfire cannons as 3 is a bit of over kill with them.
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'd than take the points left over and get something that can crack armour at long range (auto/las pred, storm tallon with cyclone ect). That way you have an ability to get troops into the open and do some damage turn 1.

Also I would only have 1 melta bike squad, with all the attack bikes I think you are covered with 1 melta squad and you want the extra plasma range.