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It's somewhere. Page numbers and titles references would be great.

Are Termies allowed in DPs? I find that DPs can have x # of 'models' ... that'd be 5 per. The entry doesn't say 'yes', in Vanilla or SW. So, with 6e and some of the changes (yeah, yeah, 6 months later, I know) is there a way to get TDAs in a DP?

My aim is to have 5 TDA models use the Drop Pod, Turn 1.

Awrighty, gimme some pages numbers to shoot this down!

Brothererekose wrote:
My aim is to have 5 TDA models use the Drop Pod, Turn 1.

Awrighty, gimme some pages numbers to shoot this down!

Terminators can't take a drop pod as a dedicated transport (except Space Wolves) and I don't believe there is a way to attach five IC's in terminator armour to a squad with a drop pod and have them all fit inside.

As Ghaz said. If you want this to work, you'll have to play Space Wolves.

However you could forgo the Pod and play Mordrak(spelling) from C:GK

To clarify then, gents, no other chapter except the SW's Wolf Guard can do it?

Good enough, as it'll be wolves in the D-Pod.

Correct. Only the unit it was purchased for (plus any attached ICs) can start the game deployed in a Dedicated Transport. Drop Pods are only available as Dedicated Transports, and the only* Terminator unit which presently has the Drop Pod as an option is Space Wolf Wolf Guard.

(*Black Templars might still have the option, as they're a 4th ed-era codex- back then the regular SM Terminators could take pods too.)

Only reason it works for the warriors of Fenris is we don't trust any form of magic. We prefer our boots on the ground the way Russ intended it so no teleporting for deepstrike.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Correct. Only the unit it was purchased for (plus any attached ICs) can start the game deployed in a Dedicated Transport. Drop Pods are only available as Dedicated Transports, and the only* Terminator unit which presently has the Drop Pod as an option is Space Wolf Wolf Guard.

(*Black Templars might still have the option, as they're a 4th ed-era codex- back then the regular SM Terminators could take pods too.)

I believe they FAQ'd that ability away and now it LR Crisaders they take as dedicated transports. So only SW can put terminators in DPs.

Why would you want to though when termis can ds themselves in? All youre gaining is an extra expensive storm bolter

Inertial guidance. And mobile cover.


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And turn 1 deep strike.

Another option for you then.

Shootynators with librarian (gate of infinity plus whatever)
Tac marines in drop pod with locator beacon

Terminators and librarian start out deployed as far forward in deployment zone as possible
Drop pod comes down
Terminators move forward, waiting for LB to activate
Turn 2, LB activates. Librarian GOI's himself and terminators to drop pod.

If you can call in LB drop pods at 24" intervals you can effectively have a terminator squad with a 24" move per turn. Add weapon range, assault distance etc and these guys suddenly have a massive area of effect

 kitch102 wrote:
Why would you want to though when termis can ds themselves in? All youre gaining is an extra expensive storm bolter

As mentioned, SW terminators can't DS alone, and a pods DS is better than a terminators DS (which is why Black Templars were doing it)

but you still lose turn 2 assault, drop podding in means you can assault turn 2 if still alive.

 Ghaz wrote:

Brothererekose wrote:
My aim is to have 5 TDA models use the Drop Pod, Turn 1.

Awrighty, gimme some pages numbers to shoot this down!

Terminators can't take a drop pod as a dedicated transport (except Space Wolves) and I don't believe there is a way to attach five IC's in terminator armour to a squad with a drop pod and have them all fit inside.

You can do 4 IC's and one wolf guard in TDA but it would be a terrible move.

rigeld2 wrote:

 kitch102 wrote:
Why would you want to though when termis can ds themselves in? All youre gaining is an extra expensive storm bolter

As mentioned, SW terminators can't DS alone, and a pods DS is better than a terminators DS (which is why Black Templars were doing it)

Ticks me off that BT lost TDA pods. Come on! Poor guys are beaten down enough as is.

Though several posts allude to it; Where does it actually say, "SW Termies can't Deep Strike" ?

There's nothing in the FAQ (I just reread it). In C:SW, there's a goofy paragraph on page 61, "prefer to fight with feet on the ground" etc. I intend to start a pack of shooty termies on the ground anyway, but this can't be "the rule" to which others have referred.

Is someone going to claim *that* is the "rule" stating so?

If it is, then it is Phil Kelly's worst conveyance/scripting of a rule. Evah.

It's in the codex that the unit doesn't have the deep strike usr.
If they don't have permission to deep strike they cannot do it.

Brothererekose wrote:
Though several posts allude to it; Where does it actually say, "SW Termies can't Deep Strike" ?

There's nothing in the FAQ (I just reread it). In C:SW, there's a goofy paragraph on page 61, "prefer to fight with feet on the ground" etc. I intend to start a pack of shooty termies on the ground anyway, but this can't be "the rule" to which others have referred.

Is someone going to claim *that* is the "rule" stating so?

If it is, then it is Phil Kelly's worst conveyance/scripting of a rule. Evah.

Permissive ruleset. Find where it says SW TDA can DS. You can't.

Find where it says they can hop in a DP. Right there in the unit breakdown in the back of the codex.

Edit: Ninja'd

Brothererekose wrote:
To clarify then, gents, no other chapter except the SW's Wolf Guard can do it?

Good enough, as it'll be wolves in the D-Pod.

I think BT terminators can purchase drop pods iirc.

SW can't deepstrike because they no longer have the special rule. TDA no longer confers the deepstrike special rule and since WG don't have it, even once TDA is purchased, they cannot deepstrike, with out the use of a drop pod.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

Brothererekose wrote:
To clarify then, gents, no other chapter except the SW's Wolf Guard can do it?

Good enough, as it'll be wolves in the D-Pod.

I think BT terminators can purchase drop pods iirc.

Not any more.

rigeld2 wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

Brothererekose wrote:
To clarify then, gents, no other chapter except the SW's Wolf Guard can do it?

Good enough, as it'll be wolves in the D-Pod.

I think BT terminators can purchase drop pods iirc.

Not any more.

Well, good thing I don't play BT or I would be cheating! That part of the FAQ is bull that codex needs all the help it can get, help with a nice side of knee cap seems to be the order of the day though...