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A Glaive Encarmine is a two-handed master-crafted power weapon. Does this mean it could be a two-handed master-crafted power maul?

The Glaives on the Sanguinary guard work on how you model them.

If you give one an axe, it works as a master-crafted power axe and so on.

It's in the FAQ; they're either Master-Crafted Swords or Axes.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
It's in the FAQ; they're either Master-Crafted Swords or Axes.

^This

If you want a master crafted power maul get lemartes.

I ask because while the FAQ gives the example of Axes & Swords, it does not say RAW that those are the only forms of power weapon that the glave can take; seems like lance & maul should be possible.

Yes it does. It gives the profiles by saying "they would therefore have the following profiles".
That reads as an exhaustive list to me.

That may simply be two examples to demonstrate the variation between types; there is not a need to write down all four if all types are allowed as the previous sentence to the one you listed states.

Then why list two? It seems odd to list two, the two types of weapon known as glaives, if there is more options available.
It also appears that RAW there is only two since the faq says they will have the following profiles.

RAI no see grendle and it's not there using english and RAW. So no.

The FAQ asks the question of Axes/Swords.
It's quite clear these are the only types.
I'm really not seeing any "but maybe they meant there to be more types..."

 grendel083 wrote:
The FAQ asks the question of Axes/Swords.
It's quite clear these are the only types.
I'm really not seeing any "but maybe they meant there to be more types..."

Hold on one second. The question specifically asked about power axes/swords. Therefore, the answer in the FAQ was tailored to answer the question. It provides no conclusive evidence that would disallow the use of power mauls or power lances since the answer specifically states they follow the "rules as described in the Types of Power Weapon section" and do not have any restrictions written other than that they are equipped with "power weapons".

Just noticed that! Thanks for pointing it out.

A power weapon with the following profiles....

GW's question notes that it can only be one of the two. The answer confirms it can only one of the two.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
A power weapon with the following profiles....

GW's question notes that it can only be one of the two. The answer confirms it can only one of the two.

I would point out that GW was not the one asking the question. It was someone, presumably a BA player who has looked at the sprues, that plays the game who asked GW the question. GW, rather, was the one answering a question that was specifically about the characteristics of glaive encarmines that are axes and swords.

GW is the one asking the question. They write the questions and give the answer.
Maybe they got the idea from their email spam box but they did write it.

While fluff definitely doesn't equal rules, but how will you explain a mace being a glaive?

 liturgies of blood wrote:
GW is the one asking the question. They write the questions and give the answer.
Maybe they got the idea from their email spam box but they did write it.

They wrote it only in the sense that someone at GW wrote out the FAQ. The question was a Frequently Asked Question though, one specifically about axes and swords, so the answer seems tailored to be appropriate for the question rather than exclusive of all other possible power weapons. Otherwise a glaive encarmine would be "a power axe or sword" rather than "a two-handed master-crafted power weapon" that "follow the rules as described in the Types of Power Weapon section on page 61 in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, but also have the Master-crafted and Two-handed special rules".

 grendel083 wrote:
While fluff definitely doesn't equal rules, but how will you explain a mace being a glaive?

I flattened it and put an edge on it.

warpspider89 wrote:

 liturgies of blood wrote:
A power weapon with the following profiles....

GW's question notes that it can only be one of the two. The answer confirms it can only one of the two.

I would point out that GW was not the one asking the question. It was someone, presumably a BA player who has looked at the sprues, that plays the game who asked GW the question. GW, rather, was the one answering a question that was specifically about the characteristics of glaive encarmines that are axes and swords.

GW frequently gives answers that go beyond the scope of the question. If they'd meant for more than axes and swords they'd have said so.

 Thamor wrote:
The Glaives on the Sanguinary guard work on how you model them.

If you give one an axe, it works as a master-crafted power axe and so on.

Agreed friend!

Warpspider you can keep easter egging but you have decided to ignore the last line and the general context of the question that limits GW's interest to axe/sword when it comes to glaives.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Warpspider you can keep easter egging but you have decided to ignore the last line and the general context of the question that limits GW's interest to axe/sword when it comes to glaives.

They [glaive encarmines that are power axes or swords] would therefore have the following profiles:

*lists power axes & power swords with the two extra rules*

Hmm... seems like Thamor and I hit the nail on the head based on the context & the final line.

Well good luck trying to find someone that buys your logic.
"It doesn't say I can't..." is what you're going on.

Are glaives unusual power weapons(as lots of peopel thought) or are they an axe/sword?
They are an axe/sword.

warpspider89 wrote:

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Warpspider you can keep easter egging but you have decided to ignore the last line and the general context of the question that limits GW's interest to axe/sword when it comes to glaives.

They [glaive encarmines that are power axes or swords] would therefore have the following profiles:

*lists power axes & power swords with the two extra rules*

Hmm... seems like Thamor and I hit the nail on the head based on the context & the final line.

Except you missed by a yard.
The BRB tells us to look at what the model comes with when determining what kind of power weapon it has.
Gamesworkshop has also set an example that if a model is supplied with only one kind of weapon, you uuse that kind of weapon( see eldar FAQ about classic banshees.)
This points us to the conclusion that glaives encarmine are either power axes or power swords.
If you wish to continue find explicit permission to change your models weaponry into an option not presented by the rules.

It's pretty obvious that you can have the axe or the sword and nothing else.

No maul for you!

The only thing that I am going to add here is that the FAQ also points you to refer to pg. 61

Q: Are Glaive Encarmines treated as ‘unusual power weapons’ (and
therefore AP 3), or do they follow the rules for power axes/swords as
defined by the type of weapon the model is carrying? (p50)

A: Glaive Encarmines follow the rules as described in the Types
of Power Weapon section on page 61 of the Warhammer 40,000
rulebook, but also have the Master-crafted and Two-handed
special rules. They would therefore have the following profiles.

Now the way I see it, they are giving examples from the question. If they didn't, then people could PLAUSIBLY argue that GE are now an unusual PW, and must follow the unusual PW rules in the BRB and would lose the MC and Two handed portion of it.

The way that they have it written keeps the weapons from losing their MC and Two handed status.
Not that I am worried either way as I face too many SM armies to go with a maul anyways.

GW often phrases the question specifically to provide additional information, such as the inability of Mad Dok Grotsnik to give Cybork Body to vehicles.

GW has clearly stated in the FAQ for glaives encarmine that they have two possible profiles (based on what the official models have, which is also the basis of the Howling Banshee ruling)- they're alsways either axes or swords.

Without the FAQ, Glaive Encarmines are Power weapons with FURTHER SPECIAL RULES which prevents us from looking at the model to determine the type.

The FAQ has given explicit permission by removing the generic 'power weapon' rule and explicitly giving the weapon profiles like dozens of other weapons, like Hyperphase swords and such.

Either way, you can never get a maul.