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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:45:42
Subject: re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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so, say for some reason (the mysterious objective, insane bs or something of the like,) you get a re-roll to hit
If firing a gets hot does a)
The firer get a re-roll, and the model survives.
the firer gets a re-roll, but after the hit the firer dies
or the firer gets no re roll and dies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:47:26
Subject: re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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This is in the rulebook. It is clearly stated in the gets hot rule on pg 37.
This forum is NOT a replacement for a rule book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:47:33
Subject: re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Gets Hot! only applies after the reroll, and if the reroll is also a 1.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:47:51
Subject: re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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The Gets Hot rules and the re-roll rules explicitly answer this question.
1. If you have a re-roll to hit, that ALSO allows you to re-roll Gets Hot.
2. If you re-roll a die, you completely ignore the first roll and only use the second result.
So unless the second result is ALSO Gets Hot, you're fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 23:35:34
Subject: Re:re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Ship's Officer
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I'm going to threadjack a little just because I haven't gotten a straight answer about this since 6th.
If you have a plasma cannon, and are granted the ability to re-roll to hit, does that apply to the separate Gets Hot! roll you must make before rolling the scatter?
On the one hand, the Gets Hot! roll is not part of the 'To hit' roll so I would say you may not re-roll (meaning when you re-roll 'all' the dice, the Gets Hot! roll is not included).
However, failing the Gets Hot! means you do not fire, so it effectively becomes part of the 'To Hit' mechanic. Theoretically you would then re-roll everything, including the Gets Hot!.
I'd love it to be true (so would my PC servitors and Coteaz) but I'm pretty sure it isn't.
DoW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 23:58:49
Subject: Re:re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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DogOfWar wrote:I'm going to threadjack a little just because I haven't gotten a straight answer about this since 6th. If you have a plasma cannon, and are granted the ability to re-roll to hit, does that apply to the separate Gets Hot! roll you must make before rolling the scatter? On the one hand, the Gets Hot! roll is not part of the 'To hit' roll so I would say you may not re-roll (meaning when you re-roll 'all' the dice, the Gets Hot! roll is not included). However, failing the Gets Hot! means you do not fire, so it effectively becomes part of the 'To Hit' mechanic. Theoretically you would then re-roll everything, including the Gets Hot!. I'd love it to be true (so would my PC servitors and Coteaz) but I'm pretty sure it isn't. DoW You need to read your special rules more carefully, the last line of the Gets Hot rule is: " [a model with the ability to re-roll To Hit] may also re-roll Gets Hot results of 1 for weapons that do not roll To Hit."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 01:36:13
Subject: Re:re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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DogOfWar wrote:I'm going to threadjack a little just because I haven't gotten a straight answer about this since 6th.
If you have a plasma cannon, and are granted the ability to re-roll to hit, does that apply to the separate Gets Hot! roll you must make before rolling the scatter?
As Drunkspleen pointed out, if you haven't gotten a straight answer on this, it's at least partially because you haven't read the entire Gets Hot rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 12:37:07
Subject: Re:re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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Ship's Officer
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Drunkspleen wrote:You need to read your special rules more carefully, the last line of the Gets Hot rule is:
"[a model with the ability to re-roll To Hit] may also re-roll Gets Hot results of 1 for weapons that do not roll To Hit."
Ah guilty indeed. Well at least I'm in good company with folks who also don't read the rulebook since we've been playing it 'no' for the last 6 months! At least now we're on the right page. Thank you for the quick response.
Mannahnin, your post is a little disappointing. If a post starts with "As X said..." and then simply reiterates the above post, perhaps it was slightly unnecessary? To each their own, I suppose.
DoW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/01 00:34:36
Subject: re-roll '1's to hit and gets hot
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Sorry; it was ingracious of me to dogpile on someone for not reading to the end of the rule. I could claim justification for having a couple of other clear answer posts ignored recently, but really I have no reason to take that out on you.
Happy New Year!
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DT:70S++++G(FAQ)M++B++I+Pw40k99#+D+++A+++/sWD105R+++T(T)DM+++++
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