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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/03 17:40:21
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
	 
 
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									Hi Lads what do you think of this list I have put together?
  I know it has some flaws but I only have these models to work with.
  Ideally i would have a KFF but he has not arrived in mail yet so i went for a meat shield instead.
  
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  Warboss: 120pts
  power klaw
  attack squig
  eavy armour
  cybork body
  bosspole
  
  Big mek: 100pts
  shokk attack gun
  eavy armour
  
  Fast Attack
  3 Deffkoptas TLR PK: 160pts
  2 Deffkoptas TLR: 90pts
  
  Elites
  8 lootas: 120pts
  
  8 lootas: 120pts
  
  Troops: 
  5 nobs: 255pts
  painboy
  cybork bodies
  'eavy armour
  2 pks
  2 shoota/skorch combi weapons
  Waaagh! banner
  
  20 shoota boys: 170pts
  pk, bosspole nob
  2 big shootas
  
  20 shoota boys: 170pts
  pk, bosspole nob
  2 big shootas
  
  20 shoota boys: 170pts
  pk, bosspole nob
  2 big shootas
  
  20 shoota boys: 170pts
  pk, bosspole nob
  2 big shootas
  
  20 gretchin: 80pts
  2 runt herders
  
  8 gretchin: 24pts
  
  total: 1749pts
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 06:18:48
	  
	    Subject: Re:Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Camouflaged Zero
	 
 
 
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									Oh yeah, pretty nice overall. I just question what the deffkoptas bring to the table. With 5 rokkits between them I can't imagine them targeting anything over AV12, so in that regard the fire power of the lootas would perform better.  What I'd suggest is dropping both of them and getting an ADL for the lootas and another unit of 20 boys. Maybe take a quad gun and reshuffle the squad if you want.    edit: changed can to can't
							 
							
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								 This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/04 07:44:18 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 07:41:56
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
	 
 
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									I played this list tonight against space marines. 
  It played OK but I felt like my boyz should of been in squads of 30 because they soon got whittled down and failed their morale checks. 
  My lootaz did nothing again due to my bad rolling. 
  My war boss made the charge but all his entourage died on the way in. 
  The deffkoptas actually did well once they came in from reserve destroying one of his vindicators.
  I really enjoyed the game and I feel with better rolling I would of done OK. 
  
  Again my shokk attack gun was amazing killing Marines and a vindicator 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 07:50:13
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Hardened Veteran Guardsman
	 
 
 
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									What would be very scary in this list would be putting your warboss and nobz on warbikes, that way you have an incredibly fast moving threat that the enemy has to deal with, is durable and can put out a LOT of damage
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 08:00:46
	  
	    Subject: Re:Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Camouflaged Zero
	 
 
 
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									Well bad rolling is a bit lame, but I would think it better to keep squads of 20. They still take a decent amount of firepower to whittle down, and they can go on to more objectives as there is more units. Unless you're just doing kill all. Typically nob units aren't fabulous, so another option for your warboss's entourage is 
  30 boys : 225pts
  pk, bp nob
  3 big shootas
  
  gives you way more wounds and would probably do more in CC. Only lost 1 pk as well. I dont have any particular suggestions for the other 30pts though, more gretchin?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 08:02:32
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Screamin' Stormboy
	 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									For only 5 more points your warboss can have a 2+ armor save with mega armor.
  Put nobs on bikes now, foot nobs just aren't what they used to be.
  I use deffkoptas in all my lists, in 6th they can glance to death even av14. But my favorite use for them is killing thunder canons .
  
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 18:36:19
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
	 
 
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									I just felt like after a pie plate or 2 and some shooting they were running thin on numbers,Before being within a respectable charge distance. I did want to avoid vehicles but I may start looking into biker nobz.
  
  Would a warboss in mega armor not slow the foot slog down? 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 18:45:02
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Roarin' Runtherd
	 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
		
 
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									Whats with the 8 gretchn? They dont have a runt herd and are the 7th troop choice and you have to take at least 10. Also you can save 13 points but cutting a grot and a runtherd on the legal gretchin unit.
  
  Im a subscriber to 30 boyz per unit , and I think you should ditch the nobz, and the powerklaw on the deff kopta. As you already said, a force field is better than a warbossso try to swap that around. Id spend any extra points on aegis line and lootas.  
  
  but apart from that its all good in my opinion.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 18:52:01
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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									There just tekkies and assistants I used as a meat shield for the SAG. Oh OK cool I'm actually selling a bunch of stuff on eBay so I might invest in a adl with the funds. How many lootaz would you use?
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 19:03:58
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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									What I meant was that the unit was illegal because of stated points. 
  
 As for lootas, I take as many as possible     I normaly take 2 units of 9 and a dakkajet or 3 units of 9 
 
  Aegis defence line is awesome, for the  SAG you want a unit of big guns for cheap T7 ablative wounds.
							  
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 19:44:03
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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									Oh OK I understand mate. 
  
  What do you use as your unit of big guns?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 20:02:46
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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									Always kannons. Cheap and versatile.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/04 21:06:18
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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                            Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
	 
 
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									How many dude?
  
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/07 00:48:46
	  
	    Subject: Ork 1750 list 
	
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									K so I got myself 2 dakka jets, how should I write the list now for 1750 points?
							 
							
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