Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I have a tournament coming up so i wanted to get some thoughts on the lists i will be running. Its steamroller 2012 35pts no reinforcements no radials.

Forward Kommander Sorscha (*6pts)
* Conquest (19pts)
Battle Mechaniks (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios (3pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)

My goal with this list was to have something that could really mop up infantry while still having enough flexibility to deal with a couple corner cases. Plus with eSorscha's bond that's a pretty big circle of stationary moving across the field.

Vladimir Tzepesci, the Dark Champion (*5pts)
* Destroyer (9pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Doom Reavers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)
Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard (2pts)
Man-o-war Drakhun (with dismount) (5pts)
Manhunter (2pts)
Manhunter (2pts)

eVlad is probably my favorite Khador caster. This list has gone through a lot of changes but this ultimately got me second at my first warmachine tournament.
though it really doesn't have a lot of answers for things like bile thralls charging having a min 14" threat on feat turn from 3-6 models can be devastating especially if they are the drakhun or manhunters.

If you have anything that you think would really complete these lists let me know and thank you in advance.

both are solid lists, but why no drago with vlad?

list 1 is better in my opinon, and why no vlad e3?

wargolem wrote:both are solid lists, but why no drago with vlad?

Ultimately i don't have the model yet, though i have proxied him a few times and he didn't do much. jacks in that list just don't seem to do a whole hell of a lot. They either go in first take a charge and spend the rest of the game severely damaged or destroyed or it comes in after the infantry swarm desperatly searching for something still alive for it to hit. The ultimate reason reason i went with the destroyer is that it gives the list a little bit of ranged support and target removal. With arcing firing it makes it easier to pick out solos lurking behind the enemy line and with a 14" range even if it ends up stuck behind the front line its going to be able to shoot something.

jbsnv wrote:list 1 is better in my opinon, and why no vlad e3?

By vlad e3 you mean vlad3 right?. I keep looking at him but every time i do, i just kinda shrug. He can get around the field fine and his feat does open up a few interesting assassination routes but he loses transference and some blood drenched doesnt make up for the loss of 1 & 2's might of kings imo. Hes definitely a caster I want to get more practice with but he just doesn't seem to be as strong as his other versions.

I have played Khador(before moving onto Cryx...the blasphemy) with Conquest and Scorsha, Vlad3 and The Butcher. In all 3 lists I found that a colossal is just to much of a point sink for me, and in my opinion Conquest is one of the worst ones out there. Don't get me wrong he is definitely fun to play, but I would question bringing him to a tournament. If he dies which there is a good chance he will seeing at how big and slow the thing is, thats a whole 19 points down the drain. Thats half your army just gone. I would instead bring in the character jack: Beast 09. He is bonded so that is 4 focus that you can allocate. He gets free runs. The affinity+thresher is simply awesome. Apart from that your lists do seem good.

However if you are hellbent on bringing Conquest in (as I was) I would say Vlad3 is a nice way to go. He doesn't benefit from the feat however "Infernal Machine" is nice to have with the +2SPD and Terror. With how large the base is you could be getting quite a few models/units making terror checks. And extra speed is always nice especially on this guy. Also Fenris is downright legendary with Vlad3 on feat turn, he was an autoinclude with Vlad3.