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I run 3 rhinos in my Chaos army, and I usually go 6" on movement phase and then 6" more in shooting face, going flat out. Is this correct?
Are my rhinos able to move at cruising speed (12") in the movement phase and then another 6" in the shooting phase?

Also since you can't pop smoke if you move flat out ( which is the 6" move in the shooting phase), so I would move the 12" cruising speed in movement phase and then pop smoke for the 5+ cover save correct??

Hopefully this makes sense.

Unless they're "heavy", then all standard vehicles can go 12" in movement, 6" in shooting. Some can go more (such as FAST vehicles).

Second question - Yes.

Any vehicle that does not have the Heavy Vehicle rule (Page 83) may move at (up to) Cruising Speed (Pg. 71).

Thanks for sorting out my confusion

Figured this thread is already here.

All vehicles fast or not have the same combat speed of 6" correct? Fast ones just get extra movement in the shooting phase. For example a fast skimmer doesn't have a 12" cruising speed.

Page 425 has a really useful summary.

You are mixing up combat and cruising speed

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Page 425 has a really useful summary.

You are mixing up combat and cruising speed

Roger the chart doesnt have fast skimmers listed on it. But a change from 5th that combat speed is 6" universal now.

All vehicles have Combat Speed.

Heavy Vehicles fire at full BS even in combat speed.

All non-heavies have Cruising speed available, which is from 7'-12'. Fast or not.

Non-heavy vehicles may Flat Out. For non-fast it is 6'

Fast vehicles (non-skimmer) may flat out an additional 6' over their non-fast counterparts. (12')

Fast Skimmers may move up to 18' in Flat Out. (Flat out also causes auto-wreck if immobilize is rolled)

Eldar Star engines (an explensively pointless upgrade) are errata-ed to make the flat out move further. (up to 24')

The Chart may not have it but the rules are on Page 83. No bonus in normal movement speed sadly :(

Sad Eldar is sad.

I know this thread is old, but I am coming back to it for some more clearing up.

So Bikes/Jet Bikes can move up to 12" in the movement phase, now does this mean they moved at cruising speed or combat speed? If its cruising speed, then the only different between Fast vehicles and everything else is that they can move 12" flat out, instead of the normal 6".

I would think 12" for a Fast vehicle would be combat speed so they can still fire at full BS, since they are faster vehicles. Am I wrong with this thinking?

Bikes/Jetbikes are not vehicles.

 Happyjew wrote:
Bikes/Jetbikes are not vehicles.

I was gonna post that but I think he is saying something different. It appears logic is trying to join warhammer again.

Yes. And to further clarify, Bikes may move up to 12", and then fire one weapon per rider (so one except for Attack Bikes) or Turbo-Boost, which is not exactly the same as Flat Out, in the shooting phase.

Firing one weapon at full BS correct?

 Solomongrundy wrote:
Firing one weapon at full BS correct?

They are relentless, so yes.

I'd also note that fast vehicles don't get to move any faster in the movement phase. It's still just 12".

It's their flat-out that's quicker.

They do get to fire more weapons at full BS while moving, however.

Fast and Skimmer has nothing to do with the shooting capabilities of the vehicle. Only Fast does.

Fast and Skimmer move 18" in the Shooting phase if they move flat out, that is the only difference between a regular Fast or regular Skimmer (12" flat out for both normally)

yes, cruising in a fast vehicle is not the same as cruising in a normal vehicle. The restrictions on what can be done in the shooting phase are different.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Fast and Skimmer has nothing to do with the shooting capabilities of the vehicle. Only Fast does.

Fast and Skimmer move 18" in the Shooting phase if they move flat out, that is the only difference between a regular Fast or regular Skimmer (12" flat out for both normally)

True in 5th, not in 6th. Fast skimmers shoot more at 12" than a fast non-skimmer

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Fast skimmers shoot more at 12" than a fast non-skimmer

This isn't right.

 grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Fast skimmers shoot more at 12" than a fast non-skimmer

This isn't right.

Eep, thats me confusing the change from 5th to 6th witha skimmer / non skimmer thing - apologies. 6th allows 2 weapons with all fast vehicles.

Easy mistake to make, I had to check twice to be sure!