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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/06 19:43:40
	  
	    Subject: 1750 Ork 
	
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                            Screaming Shining Spear
	 
 
 
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									1750 Lizardmen
  
  HQ
  Warboss + Power Klaw + Cybork Body + Warbike + Bosspole + Attack Squig
  
  Warboss + Power Klaw + Cybork Body + Warbike + Attack Squig
  
  
  Elites
  9 Lootas
  
  9 Lootas
  
  5 Lootas
  
  
  Troops
  10 Nob Bikers w/ Cybork Body + 3 Power Klaws +  Big Choppa + Bosspole + Waaagh! Banner + Painboy + Stikkbombz
  
  16 Grots with a Runtherders
  
  20 Shoota Boyz + 2 Big Shoota + Nob + Bosspole
  
  10 Shoota Boyz + Big Shoota
  
  Heavy Support
  3 Kannons + Runtherder + 6 extra Crew + 1 Ammo Runt
  
  Fortification
  Aegis Defense Line + Quad Gun
  
  
  Gives me a big 'ol powerful deathstar ready to kill some stuff while still having a good bit of boots on the ground and long range support. Kannons are there as a very sturdy choice that'll be awesome in Big Guns Never Tire (16 models treated as T7? Oh yeah!). Lots of Lootas, but considering splitting that 5 man squad into +3/+2 for the other squads.
  
  Bikerz blast ahead while the Lootas + Grots stay behind and blast away. Shoota boyz either stay behind to try and bubble wrap the sides, possibly coming in off reserve, or move forward to help lay down more fire.
  
  What do you guys think?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/06 22:25:11
	  
	    Subject: Re:1750 Ork 
	
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                            Camouflaged Zero
	 
 
 
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									I think you have a few too many nob bikers. Sure it'll be a deathstar but its a bit unnecessary. Normally nob biker squads range from 4-7 as beyond that they get too expensive and really all the additional ones do is add wounds in. This also makes the rest of your troops rather sparse. For foot slogging boys there really is too few. That 10 man squad would probably be wiped out first turn, with the other following second. The boys seem like there stuck inbetween the artillery batteries and the bikes, so effectively left alone in the open. I'd suggest loosing a few of the bikers, making 2 off the lootas squads 10 and dropping the other, and use that to pile all the boys into trukks. Stretching it you my get 3 trukk squads would would be preferable. Maybe reduce the size of the grots squad as well, 16 isn't really necessary to drive a quad gun.
							 
							
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 If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/06 23:16:25
	  
	    Subject: Re:1750 Ork 
	
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                            Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
	 
 
 
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									I don't get the point of the second warboss. Drop him in favour of a battle wagon with 2x big shootas and deff rolla for the 20 shoota boyz to ride in. I would also try and find a trukk for the 10 boyz as well.
							 
							
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 All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
 
 Armies of Mixer
 WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG 
 
 40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
 
 The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil,  Angmar, Mordor
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/06 23:52:26
	  
	    Subject: 1750 Ork 
	
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                            Screaming Shining Spear
	 
 
 
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									I forgot to mention that this wasn't supposed to be SUPER competitive and there's certain things I wanna keep for funsies.
  
  I really like the large Deathstar. I know that it means that people with those S10 pieplates are more likely to hit something, but I'm also more likely to survive those shots. I can't imagine taking the squad below 8 as that's my main reason for coming to Orks.
  
  I definitely will be splitting up that last Loota squad.
  For modeling reasons I won't be taking Trukks and, frankly, I think a lone trukk or two are just easy First Blood units. 
  The 16 Grot squad is going to be a solid objective holder and I really took that many so that I can afford to loose some and still not have to take Ld7 checks. Plus, they're so cheap that once I have a unit at 10 I might as well build them up some more. 
  The 10 man squad is definitely in question too, They're in reserve so that they can come in on either side to contest objectives and it'll give me space when it comes to putting them in somewhere.
  
  I appreciate the response but I definitely don't think it's the route for me.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/07 22:02:06
	  
	    Subject: Re:1750 Ork 
	
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                            Camouflaged Zero
	 
 
 
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									Okay then, how about this:
  Reduce the nob bikers to 8 and drop the second warboss, I can't quite see a place for him in the list. Then use that to boost your foot units of boys to around 25 (points permitting) and then give each of the nobs a power klaw. 
  Alternatively keep the second warboss and loose the 10 man unit of shoota boys. I dont see how they can come around they side when they dont have scout/outflank from reserve. Then split the 10 man nob biker unit into two and then upgrade another to be a painboy so your second warboss can join that. With two 6 man biker groups they would probably do more and with 2 warbosses, both count as scoring units. Any points left over, chuck it onto the shoota boys.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/07 22:46:29
	  
	    Subject: Re:1750 Ork 
	
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                            Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
	 
 
 
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									I agree. As I said unless ur gonna take 2 nob biker units I see no point taking a second warboss.
  
  If you want mass bikes drop 3 lootas (for 2 x 10 lootas) and the ten man shoota unit in favour of 2 more nob bikers so you have 12. Then split into 2 x 6 plus a warboss to lead each as rahxephon memtioned.
							 
							
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 All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
 
 Armies of Mixer
 WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG 
 
 40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
 
 The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil,  Angmar, Mordor
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/08 01:01:44
	  
	    Subject: Re:1750 Ork 
	
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									Why two Warbosses? There's a few reasons: 
  Tons of big Klaw hits.
  More defense against S10 since I can put the extra (non-Warlord) Warboss on a spearhead if I need to and he won't get instadeath'ed by them. 
  Taking the nasty challenges. I'm afraid of running the squad up against a Force Weapon'ed character who'll One-Shot my Warboss giving up the Warlord Victory Point. 
  
  Down to 8 Nobz I can see, but 6? That's where I'd totally start redoing my squads because suddenly I'm wondering if the Waaagh! Banner and Painboy are worth it anymore (though I'm think they will be, if only slightly). Either way I'm definitely gonna stay with 8, while I appreciate your responses about them, I'm just not interested in running a Nob Biker squad below 8. 
  So what:
  
  HQ
  Warboss + Power Klaw + Cybork Body + Warbike + Bosspole + Attack Squig
  Warboss + Power Klaw + Cybork Body + Warbike + Attack Squig
  
  Elites
  13 Lootas
  12 Lootas
  
  Troops
  8 Nob Bikers w/ Cybork Body + 3 Power Klaws +  Big Choppa + Bosspole + Waaagh! Banner + Painboy + Stikkbombz
  15 Grots with a Runtherders
  20 Shoota Boyz + 2 Big Shoota + Nob + Bosspole
  20 Shoota Boyz + 2 Big Shoota + Nob
  
  Heavy Support
  3 Kannons + Runtherder + 6 extra Crew + 1 Ammo Runt
  
  Fortification
  Aegis Defense Line + Quad Gun
  
  How do you guys think that looks? Bumped up that Shoota Boyz squad and evened out the Lootas.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/08 04:16:17
	  
	    Subject: 1750 Ork 
	
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									  felixander wrote:I forgot to mention that this wasn't supposed to be SUPER competitive and there's certain things I wanna keep for funsies.  
 
 Did you mean its all fun or semi fun semi competitive? If all fun then take a Big Mek w/ Shokk GUn, THEY ARE FUN!
							  
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/08 06:38:41
	  
	    Subject: 1750 Ork 
	
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									Boss Grot Punt wrote:  felixander wrote:I forgot to mention that this wasn't supposed to be SUPER competitive and there's certain things I wanna keep for funsies.  
 
 Did you mean its all fun or semi fun semi competitive? If all fun then take a Big Mek w/ Shokk GUn, THEY ARE FUN!   
 
 I want it to be fun but not get completely thrashed by everyone haha
  I'm not taking this to even  FLGS tournaments, just games amongst friends.
 
							  
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2013/01/08 08:43:47
	  
	    Subject: 1750 Ork 
	
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									  felixander wrote:Boss Grot Punt wrote:  felixander wrote:I forgot to mention that this wasn't supposed to be SUPER competitive and there's certain things I wanna keep for funsies.  
 
 Did you mean its all fun or semi fun semi competitive? If all fun then take a Big Mek w/ Shokk GUn, THEY ARE FUN!   
 
 I want it to be fun but not get completely thrashed by everyone haha
  I'm not taking this to even  FLGS tournaments, just games amongst friends.
   
 
 Dunno if it's really going to be fun playing this list but thats up to you. You got a Nobbiker list and you going to drive them forward and if your opponent isn't completely stupid and got half a decent armylist the will be shot to pieces. If your opponent doesn't meet this criteria then you will drive right over him.
 
  But if you really want this kind of armylist then i would:
 
  * lose on warboss and get 2 more Nobbikers. Warboss cost about 130 points for 3 wounds and 5 attacks. 2 nobs with powerclaws gives you 4 wounds and 6 attacks and one more gun. This way you got more models and a better chance of making your leadership tests. 
  * lose the 3 kannons and make those loota's 10 in number ....you want them to go to ground behind those defence line.
 
     
 
 
 
							 
							
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