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I'm not sure if this has been asked before so I apologize if so.

If Coteaz is shooting a Quadgun it uses his BS and special rules. So "Ive been expecting you" is the basis of my questioning. Let's say a drop pod comes from reserve within 12" of him. That triggers his rule allowing him to shoot at the drop pod or squad disembarking. First question is, can he fire the Quadgun at them instead of his own gun/Eagle for the "I've been expecting you shot." Secondly if he CAN fire the quad gun instead of his own gun/Eagle would the Quad gun get to shoot a second time if you use the Interceptor rule as well to target the unit coming from reserve?

Currently yes to both questions. There is no qualification for how many times a GE can be fired in a single turn nor phase so technically you can put multiple models in base contact with the GE and each can use it during their shooting phase. That being said I doubt most people are allowing multiple firings of a single GE in a phase if they want everyone to have fun.

The Quadgun is a legal weapon for him to shoot, and there is no limit to the number of times he can use his "I've been expecting you" ability.

And Interceptor is a seperate rule that also allows him to shoot at an arriving from reserves model, but only with the Quadgun. Unless the model also happens to end within 12" of Coteaz, in which case he can use his IBEY rule instead and use the Interceptor shot at something else.

Cool so scenario to make sure I got it.

Coteaz is alone base to base with Quad gun. A drop pod drops within 12" of Coteaz. He can use Ive been expecting you to instantly shoot the drop pod with the Quad after the models have disembarked of course. Let's say he fails to blow it up. He can then use the Interceptor function of the Quad gun to shoot the drop pod a second time at the end of the opponents movement phase.

Or if he blows up the pod with Ive been expecting you he can then use Interceptor to shoot the unit that disembarked.

I get that all correct?

Yes, he could shoot the Quad-gun twice at the same unit. once for each rule. Just remember that IPEY triggers immedialty when they move to within range, Interceptor is at the end of the opponents movement phase.

So, Pod Drops down. Squad gets out. Coteaz shoots at both the Pod and the Squad using his IBEY. Then at the end of the enemy movement phase he can shoot the Quadgun at a model that arrived from reserves that is currently in range of the run. So either the Pod or the Squad, or something else maybe.

If a pod comes in within 12 inches he can shoot at the pod and the squad providing they disembarked within 12 inches as well

 Gravmyr wrote:
Currently yes to both questions. There is no qualification for how many times a GE can be fired in a single turn nor phase so technically you can put multiple models in base contact with the GE and each can use it during their shooting phase. That being said I doubt most people are allowing multiple firings of a single GE in a phase if they want everyone to have fun.

incorrect, pg 104 BRB, under gun emplacement

first sentence,

"One model in base contact with the gun emplacement cant fire it instead of his own weapon, following the normal rules for shooting."

you can fire the gun multiple times, but just with the special coteaz stuff, no multi models "sharing" the gun

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Ub3rb3n wrote:
If a pod comes in within 12 inches he can shoot at the pod and the squad providing they disembarked within 12 inches as well

the above is how It works I believe,

and unless someone has a necron codex and can correct me,

i think necrons enter from reserve through their flyer transports as well,

Actually is does not limit it via that statement otherwise the first model to fire it is the only model that can ever fire it. What limits it, as I mentioned in another thread but didn't correct here, is that a weapon's profile implies how many times it can be fired in a phase. The line about one model is missing any type of qualifier. Is it per phase, game, unit, army? As written because they did not qualify it only the first model that fires it can ever fire it as it does not say that it can change between phases or turns. "One model may fire..." Clearly that was not what was intended but poor writing wins again. Without the qualifier I had assumed that you can line up as many units as you can get single members of their units touching the base and fire the quadgun once with each member touching the base per shooting unit. Do to the limit imposed by the weapon itself it can be fired only that way once per phase.

Gravmyr, how does a weapon profile imply how many times it can be fired in a phase?

MarkyMark wrote:
Gravmyr, how does a weapon profile imply how many times it can be fired in a phase?

Heavy 1, fire once in a phase.

 liturgies of blood wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
Gravmyr, how does a weapon profile imply how many times it can be fired in a phase?

Heavy 1, fire once in a phase.

Doh!, of course, I was thinking of boltguns and the like rather then heavy weapons for some reason, it was 4am something in the morning is my only defence! thanks

 Gravmyr wrote:
Actually is does not limit it via that statement otherwise the first model to fire it is the only model that can ever fire it. What limits it, as I mentioned in another thread but didn't correct here, is that a weapon's profile implies how many times it can be fired in a phase. The line about one model is missing any type of qualifier. Is it per phase, game, unit, army? As written because they did not qualify it only the first model that fires it can ever fire it as it does not say that it can change between phases or turns. "One model may fire..." Clearly that was not what was intended but poor writing wins again. Without the qualifier I had assumed that you can line up as many units as you can get single members of their units touching the base and fire the quadgun once with each member touching the base per shooting unit. Do to the limit imposed by the weapon itself it can be fired only that way once per phase.

totally wrong BRB says

"One model in base contact with the gun emplacement can fire it instead of his own weapon, following the normal rules for shooting."

= legal

you are saying

two(or more) models in base are able to fire it instead of their weapons, and we dont know if they follow normal shooting rules, or follow unwritten shooting rules = illegal


arguing that "one model" means multiple models is asinine, and just wrong

the "qualifier" you say is missing, is not missing,
it stipulates one model may fire it as per normal shooting rules (ie once per shooting phase barring things like coteaz/interceptor)

as soon as more then "one" model in base has fired it in the same turn, the rule above has been broken as more then "one model in base contact" has fired it in , very clear RAW

the gun can fire every turn so the whole interpretation that "one model" means "only the initial model that fired the gun" is also asinine, it does not logically come from the phrase "one model" at all

 Gravmyr wrote:
What limits it, as I mentioned in another thread but didn't correct here, is that a weapon's profile implies how many times it can be fired in a phase. .... Do to the limit imposed by the weapon itself it can be fired only that way once per phase.

The rest was picked apart by easysauce.

A weapon's profile states how many shots it gets when the trigger is pulled. That's all, it doesn't say how much ammo it has or whether it overheats or how many times it's allowed to be fired *per phase*. Just that when the trigger is pulled it gets X shots. There is no other RAW governing this.