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Hey guys,

This list is my complete BA army, so not to a set points score, feel free to provide feedback

HQs
Tycho (DC) - 175
Astorath the Grim - 220
Chapter Master Gabriel Seth - 160

Elites
Terminator Squad - 200
Assault Terminator Squad - 200
Sanguinary Guard - infernus pistol, plasma pistol, death masks x 5 - 285

Heavy Support
Storm raven - hurricane storm bolters, bolters, auto cannon - 230
Devastator Squad - 2 las cannon, 1 multi melta, 1 missile launcher - 176
Predator - twin link las cannons, 2 las cannon sponsons - 180

Fast Attack
Bike squad - 130

Troop
2 x Tactical squads - both with 1 missile launcher and 1 flamer - 340
Death Co - inc Lemartes - plasma pistol, hand flamer, all with jump packs - 340
Death Co Dreadnought - blood talons - 125

Rhino - 65


As I said, this list is not set to a points value, as I do that out of what I have above, I am considering the following to add next:
Land Raider,
Drop Pod,
2 x Land Speeders.

Any and all feedback appreciated

Get attack bikes, not land speeders.

Get some actual ASM, dump the DC. DC are terrible.

You definitely need a land raider for the assault terminators.

I'm looking at attack bikes also.

However, now that rage has changed and is now +2 attacks on the charge, I like DC especially with Jump packs

DC with jump packs are 35 pts a model with no power weapon still. They must assault to get those 2 attacks and if they are assaulted, are no better than assault marines. And they never score. Fail. If you must use them, they are better in a LR.

Martel732 wrote:
DC with jump packs are 35 pts a model with no power weapon still. They must assault to get those 2 attacks and if they are assaulted, are no better than assault marines. And they never score. Fail. If you must use them, they are better in a LR.

I agree that DC with JPs are expensive, but they aren't identical to Assault Marines except for Rage. They get an extra base attack and built-in FNP. Or, you can exploit the Bolter and Relentless combo.

Still, given that Sanguinary Guard are only 5 more points a model, it's hard to justify giving them JPs.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the attack. I was thinking survival potential. Still, if they get assaulted, they lose a ton of utility.

I am more in favor of the SG. If they get assaulted, they keep most of their utility.

Martel732 wrote:
DC with jump packs are 35 pts a model with no power weapon still. They must assault to get those 2 attacks and if they are assaulted, are no better than assault marines. And they never score. Fail. If you must use them, they are better in a LR.

They are still WS5 A2 marines if assaulted, remember that. Normal assault marines are WS4 A1. But still DC are damn expencive

And they don't score.

Personally, I'll take the SG and the 2+ armor and built in MC Power Weapons. And built in jump packs. How could I forget. The same reason vanguards suck ass.

I forgot that DC are WS5.

At any rate, they are cheap for what you get. The problem is they lack a reliable delivery system that isn't hella expensive. 20 points for barebones is great in a vacuum. If they had mobility at that price they'd be great.

As is, I suspect the best way to use them is 10 in a pod, nothing else. Maybe with Bolters. Situational though.