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Hey all,

So this is the list I've been running with my Orks lately and I'm planning on bringing it to a local tournament in 2 weeks. I figured I would solicit some outside opinions!

I think the list is pretty straightforward, the only oddball is the warboss. He's mostly there for AV14 since I know there will be many imperial players (and they're actually kinda popular in my area, no idea why).

Thanks all!

[HQ]
+ Big Mek [90]
- Kustom Force Field, 'Eavy Armour
+ Warboss [140]
- Warbike, Power Klaw, Attack Squig

[Elites]
+ Lootas [105]
- 7x Lootas
+ Lootas [105]
- 7x Lootas

[Troops]
+ Ork Boyz [210]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Rokkit Launchaz
+ Ork Boyz [210]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Rokkit Launchaz
+ Ork Boyz [210]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Rokkit Launchaz
+ Ork Boyz [210]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Rokkit Launchaz
+ Ork Boyz [210]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Rokkit Launchaz

[Fast Attack]
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas

Total: 1850

That sounds painful but I would swap the mek for a wierdboy with that many jets and he wont be covering much of the boy blobs he is supposrd to protect

And what is the boss doing on a bike? He has nothing to support him on the bike he is either wasting movement being in a blob of boyz or getting picked off while he runs up alone
I would drop one boy blob for some warbikers or nob bikers with big choppas and painboy I dont have my dex on me so Im not sure if that would work
Your other option is to drop the bike slap a cyborg body and eavy armor on him

I agree about taking a weirdboy over the mek. Too many boys to benefit from the cover save and not the right type of vehicles to benefit either. But the lone warboss can work. Being an individual fast model its easy enough to keep him hidden most of the time. Nob biker units are far too expensive for the benefit they'd bring to this IMO and he would have to loose about 40 or so boys to only get maybe 4-5 of them.
Personally I have a preferance to big shootas over rokkits, but thats not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that their is no nobs or power klaws in the squads. This leaves them severely weakened as they cannot really tackle any vehicle (minus AV10) and against units like MCs or terminators they would flounder. I think it would be worth it to loose 1 whole squad to give the other four a boss pole, pk nob at 40pts each. There is the argument that they die in CC challenges but those can normally be avoided or tanked through and the benefit of those armour piercing S8 hits is invaluable. What you've got at the moment is a horde army that would excel against another horde army. But it also needs to be able to handle tanks. The lootas and warboss cant do that on their own.

Agree with above,

You have nothing apart from the warboss that can do more than glance AV 13 and as you say you have lots of marine players to face so exspect a few landraiders.

If you are having boys mobs list then i would put in some Nobs in mega armour to take care of hard units as well as Nobs with PK in the boys units.

I would put all of those Lootas in one unit and give them an Agis defence line to make them last longer.

I would drop the rockets in the boys units for Big shootas as its always better to roll more dice and lets be honest the only thing there guna do any good at is killing low tuffness grunts far too unreliable to stop armour in my opion.

Iv never used werid boys but defanetly drop the warbike an replace with Mega armour.

Maybe drop a Dakka jet in place of Kans or deff dread as they move at same speed as your boys.

Just my ideas hope that helps.

Looks like a fantastic list. Good luck in the tourney.

 cranney268 wrote:
Agree with above,

You have nothing apart from the warboss that can do more than glance AV 13 and as you say you have lots of marine players to face so exspect a few landraiders.

Warboss with that PK can both glance and pen armor 14, rokkits can glance and pen 13,. and get some glancing hits on 14.

I would ditch the warboss, and add nobs with power klaws to all the Boyz squads. Also old zogwort might be good, but I don't know much about him, as I'm not an ork player, But I know he can turn Marneus Calgar into a squig, so I like him!

phatonic wrote:

 cranney268 wrote:
Agree with above,

You have nothing apart from the warboss that can do more than glance AV 13 and as you say you have lots of marine players to face so exspect a few landraiders.

Warboss with that PK can both glance and pen armor 14, rokkits can glance and pen 13,. and get some glancing hits on 14.

I said "apart from the warboss" and granted the rockets could, but the chances of you hitting in the first place on a 5+ and then getting another 5+ for Av 13 or 6+ for Av 14 and thats only glancing is very slim. Maybe if you had twenty rocket shots per turn it would work out but with only four or five i dont rate your chances much aginst a Landraider.

I could be wrong but thats my exsperence of useing Orks.

Pretty much the warboss - or a good SAG, id the only thing to deal to AV14. For a russ from the front you need around 54 rokkits to glance it to death. I probably wouldn't go for walking MANz or walkers either with this. They just would not last and would dilute the rest of the units.

Yeah the boss is there to handle AV14. Between the few rockets I have and his S10 klaw you can handle a LR pretty easily. I'd probably have trouble with multiple LRs though.

It might be worth it to ditch the Big Mek. I haven't had trouble keeping the cover save for most of the mobs so far (just keep them strung-out). But I like the idea of using the Wierdboy to boost the shooting power of the Jets. I'll have to playtest that one! Thanks!

So, I think I will for sure drop those rockets. They're pretty expensive and they perform far worse than I had anticipated.

I also really like the idea of an Aegis line for the lootas (that +2 cover is too good), I think I'll try that too.

So, the revised list is as follows:
[HQ]
+ Big Mek [90]
- Kustom Force Field, 'Eavy Armour
OR
+ Wierdboy [85]
- Warphead
+ Warboss [150]
- Warbike, Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork Body

[Elites]
+ Lootas [225]
- 15x Lootas

[Troops]
+ Ork Boyz [195]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Big Shootaz
+ Ork Boyz [195]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Big Shootaz
+ Ork Boyz [195]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Big Shootaz
+ Ork Boyz [195]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Big Shootaz
+ Ork Boyz [195]
- 30x Shoota Boyz; 3x Big Shootaz

[Fast Attack]
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas
+ Dakkajet [120]
- 3x Supa Shootas

[Fortification]
+ Aegis Defense Line [50]

Total: 1850

Still no reliable and solid av14 counter take the wierdboy over mek he can get a fun little melta shot off and try swapping a dakkajet for a blitza bomber as its the best AT you got

The warboss is pretty damn good at cracking AV14.

I mean, 6x attacks at S10 will reliably put 1-2 glances/pens on a Land Raider. I don't know of many other guns/weapons with better chances then that.

Yes but its just the one boss he could easily get shot down before you get anywhere near his av 14 that will probly ne scooting and shooting away from it you are over estimating your bosses potential

I think the second list with the weirdboy is quite reasonable. I mean realistically, its orks. They dont have an abundance of anti AV14 gear so the warboss is really the best you can get. And not everyone wants to layer the cheese on with straight-up nob bikers and biker bosses. I would however still strongly suggest getting pk nobs for the squads. Before there were rokkits which while not great, had potential. Now they have more of a focus on infantry which is all good (as I said before I prefer big shootas) but I always take a pk nob with them.

I still think that you should toss in a blutza bimba or something because the off chance you get the melta to pop av14 with your wierdboy isnt a guarentee that it will get off and if your boss gets focused your in trouble

Second list looks a lot better with the werid Boy but you still lack anything to take out Av 14, as said i would stick some PK in each mob at the least just to worry thos tuff tanks.

This ^^^

You need more AT a lone boss will not tackle all your AT needs