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So with the Dark Vengeance terminators and tactical squads being 15-17 dollars on Ebay I ended up picking up 30 terminators ($17 for 5 with a decent tactical loadout why not) and 50 tactical marines ($15 per tactical squad ... too inexpensive to pass up) - I also picked up Belial when the codex came out. At the start of next month I am planning on picking up a box of Deathwing Knights and this is what my list is looking as so far with the knights included. I normally play games around 1250-1500 Points - but added up I can go up to 1900 with all the extra terminators I have)

Dark Angel’s Deathwing 1250 Point Loadout

Belial (Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Sword of Silence) – 190 {Attached to Deathwing Knights}

5 Deathwing Knights (Perfidious Relic of the Unforgiven) – 245

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245
5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245
5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245

= 1170

To go up to the 1500 point bracket I just add another 5 Deathwing Terminators- at 1415 points.
My normal match ups are Orcs, Nids, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Tau, with Space Marines coming soon.

I also cannot figure out how to max points in each bracket since I have upgraded everything that I can - I thought about adding in a regular libby with terminator armor (attached to the knights unit with divination) and dropping the chain fists in each unit .... but then I lose a decent bit of anti armor threat - I am also debating about running belial with TH/SS to have 1 consistent hard hitting weapon in the knights unit ... but I really like the heavenfall blade fluff and fleshbane is well fleshbane.

With the updated deathwing assault rules and the squad becoming twin-linked the first turn with deep strike I feel that the assault cannons are not a bad choice (I normally hate them ... and I am in the process of getting plasma cannons)

Thats 1 squad of knights with belial locked up in CC and 3 Deathwing Terminators that are scoring.

Over the next three months I am planning on getting two Land Raiders but for now I am going to try full on Deathwing Assault.

And what are people's take on Perfidious Relic of the Unforgiven? An inexpensive upgrade for adamantium will and fear .... i've never fielded a unit with fear so i'm unsure.

Any Thoughts?

Don't underestimate the Greenwing. They can put out so many bodies at so little points it's amazing. Especially if you try a 50/50 mix.

Fear isn't that great unless you fight non MEQ armies. They shall know no fear stops it cold. You may want to look into tossing belial into one of the shooting squads of terminators. If you can make a squad of 10 shooting terminators and give them 2 HF's you can do so many wounds that first turn. Have belial join them, precision drop right near someone's aegis line and open up with 2 twin linked Heavy flamers. also as a side note 2 of your squads of termies will have to start on the board due to 50% rule for reserves.

Librarian with the knights would be fine, except that they lose the Deathwing Assault special rule because the Librarian doesn't have it. On the plus side Belial has a teleport homer, which means since they have to roll on from reserves Belial would most likely be there for a guarenteed deep strike

I might thinking about combining two squads and deep striking them with Belial ... with the low amount of scoring units I was keeping them in units of 5. The Heavy Flamers are a decent idea but I would rather keep something with range on it (Preferably plasma cannons if I can get my hands on some).

it looks fine, I suppose. having just gotten our codexes, I think a lot of advice is going to be vague or simply conjectuee at this point. instead, just play it and then you can tell us how well it worked...

icefire78 wrote:
Fear isn't that great unless you fight non MEQ armies. They shall know no fear stops it cold. You may want to look into tossing belial into one of the shooting squads of terminators. If you can make a squad of 10 shooting terminators and give them 2 HF's you can do so many wounds that first turn. Have belial join them, precision drop right near someone's aegis line and open up with 2 twin linked Heavy flamers. also as a side note 2 of your squads of termies will have to start on the board due to 50% rule for reserves.

Librarian with the knights would be fine, except that they lose the Deathwing Assault special rule because the Librarian doesn't have it. On the plus side Belial has a teleport homer, which means since they have to roll on from reserves Belial would most likely be there for a guarenteed deep strike

Just a note, the description of Terminator armour on page 65 says that it gives the Deathwing Assault rule.

Changed my mind a bit on the list .... after some thought

Dark Angel’s Deathwing 1500 Point Loadout


Belial (Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Sword of Silence) – 190 {Attached to the 10 man Deathwing Terminator Squad}

Librarian (Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Force Weapon - Divination) - 95 {Attached to the 10 man Deathwing Terminator Squad}

10 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 2 Assault Cannon) – 480 {Deployed using Deathwing Assault}

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245 {Deployed using Deathwing Assault}

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Power Sword, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 1 Assault Cannon) – 245


= 1500



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 Whereswaldo wrote:
30 terminators ($17 for 5 with a decent tactical loadout why not) and 50 tactical marines ($15 per tactical squad ... too inexpensive to pass up)

Any Thoughts?

Not that great of a deal. You paid $32 for a tac and terminator squad? It's pretty standard to pay ~$35(including shipping) for the entire DA set from Dark Vengeance. So, you paid $102 for 30 Terminators, and $75 for 50 tacs.
$177 total

6 Sets of DV(enough to get those 30 termies) at $35 would be $210.
You would have paid an extra $33, and for that you would have (in addition to what you listed):

10 Tac marines
18 RW bikes
6 Librarians
6 Company Masters

didnt realise that .... but I really am not a fan of the 2/3 of the ravenwing bike models .... libbys and company masters are going for less than 3 dollars with shipping, the 50 tact marines fills out any need for PA troop choices. Ya I could have paid $50 more and gotten more but spent a few months of ebay selling the leftovers for a marginal profit. All said and done I paid less than 160.

- good to know for the future though, thanks.


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Any comments about the second army list?