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2013/01/13 23:27:10
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Do the Impaler cannons from hive used negate the cover saves granted by a Dark Shroud?
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2013/01/13 23:29:04
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I'd say no, you only get saves from cover your in ad per the impalor rules
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2013/01/13 23:32:19
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Only terrain you are in or touching that lies between the target and HG will provide cover.
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2013/01/13 23:36:46
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Hard to say, I'd lean towards no given they are FAQ'd as ignoring jink saves and KFFs, I'd say you can't take cover against them unless you meet the specific criteria they lay out for taking a cover save against them.
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2013/01/13 23:40:34
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah I was thinking that since its only cover you are in or touching, but does being within 6" count as being in the cover? I suppose it would be the same for shield of sanguinus as well.
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2013/01/14 00:05:35
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Eldercaveman wrote:Yeah I was thinking that since its only cover you are in or touching, but does being within 6" count as being in the cover? I suppose it would be the same for shield of sanguinus as well.
It's Terrain, not cover that you are in or touching.
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2013/01/14 00:06:08
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fragile wrote:Only terrain you are in or touching that lies between the target and HG will provide cover.
Except all it does is give stealth, which we have already discussed on here
Stealth gives you a cover save if you dont already have one, or improves on you already do have. You do not get the former against Impaler, however if you havea cover save, granted by terrain you are in or touching, then you DO get the cover save AND the improvement to the save provided by Stealth
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2013/01/14 01:09:15
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Fragile wrote:Only terrain you are in or touching that lies between the target and HG will provide cover.
Except all it does is give stealth, which we have already discussed on here
Stealth gives you a cover save if you dont already have one, or improves on you already do have. You do not get the former against Impaler, however if you havea cover save, granted by terrain you are in or touching, then you DO get the cover save AND the improvement to the save provided by Stealth
This seems the right way about it.
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2013/01/14 03:28:08
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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Been Around the Block
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So would the impalor ignore night fighting saves if the target is out in the open, and not in or touching cover?
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2013/01/14 03:35:58
Subject: Hive guard vs Dark Shroud
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 Elmothegreat wrote:So would the impalor ignore night fighting saves if the target is out in the open, and not in or touching cover?
Yes. But if they are in cover, they gain the added night fighting bonus'
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