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I did not have the patience to read through 20 pages of yes-no-yes-no, so call me a troll but to me it is pretty obvious that sexism is a big issue in the hobby (which not coincidentally is linked to the fact that the hobby has always been dominated by - or better an industry aimed at - boys caught up in puberty, and former boys who are still stuck in that time with one leg. The question is: Is it the left, is it the right, or is it the tiny one dangling in between?

There is a distinction between sexy and sexist, and erotic and pornographic. Where the line runs is up to negotiations, and depends on the level of moral intelligence of the negotiators.
In any case, negotiations should always be held in public (unless doing so would harm one party unfairly.) Just as moral values are not absolute but subject to ongoing discussions in society. (no, I don't believe in a god).

So I think that talking about this topic IS actually a form of doing something against it.

I like sexy models but I would still speak out against sexism in the hobby.

I also think the main question in this topic was less about individual miniatures, and more about a mainstream TREND. A trend to depict women as artificially sexualized masturbatory fantasies. A trend that might be less strong in recent years, or more strong, I cannot say. But this thread could have at least tried to find an answer to that (or did it somewhere hidden in these 20 pages of "you are dumb! No you! - No you!"?

What is definitely new in recent years is a) discussion and criticism of this topic and b) the rising quality in detail and explicity of examples of this trend (see see ass-tits-angles in minis, KD's hentai-inspired "Boutique models", for example).
I think the fanbase has changed a bit, with more female, as well as older and sometimes more mature male hobbyists set against the fundamentally male pubertarian majority; and an equally maturing (although not in moral terms) industry that delivers to the different interests.

 master of ordinance wrote:
The way that this thread is going i am apparently now a sesist prick for being a gentleman and allowing ladys to pass through a door before me or offering up my seat on the bus.

Well, yes, if you did not do that to any fellow man in the same situation, you were very rude to members of your own gender!

Also, last time I checked, it was customary and good behaviour to leave your seat to persons in need.
So if you leave your seat to any woman that comes around, you would be implying that all women are persons in need.*
...Unless you were fed up of being physically abused by your +6" girl-friend every time she was drunk, and you were taking every desperate move to hook up with a new one? I could sympathize with that!

I do agree, though, that too many people are ranting about their own little penises, instead of trying to advance the worthwhile discussion.

Hmm, you never said that??

*cough*strawman*cough*


*This would indeed qualify as a sexist statement, unless it was meant as part of a very broad philosophical argument of possibly buddhist flavour.