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I would infiltrate the baal preds into cover and hide turn one. Then t2 my ravens come out and blast any unit that can take them out. T3 move and deploy the cargo and reck them. Astroth goes with the 5 man squad with dread in sr. Would this strategy work or am i missing something?

+++ Steam roller DC SR (2000pts) +++
+++ 2000pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++

Selections:

Blood Angels 5th Edition (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (220pts)

* Astorath the Grim


+ Troops + (890pts)

* Death Company (145pts)
5x Bolt Pistol, 2x Chainsword, 5x Death Company Marine, 3x Power Sword


* Death Company (185pts)
7x Bolt Pistol, 4x Chainsword, 7x Death Company Marine, 3x Power Sword


* Death Company 185
7x Bolt Pistol, 4x Chainsword, 7x Death Company Marine, 3x Power Sword


* Death Company Dreadnought (125pts)
Blood Talons


* Death Company Dreadnought (125pts)
Blood Talons


* Death Company Dreadnought (125pts)
Blood Talons


+ Fast Attack + (290pts)

* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


+ Heavy Support + (600pts)

* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta


* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta


* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta



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Well, with 6th being all about objectives... you might not do so well.

Plus DC dreads are kinda bad. Especially with Blood Talons.

Lucarikx

This list looks fun. No scoring units to take objectives, and if your Storm Ravens get shot down that's a ton of points that get wrecked. I might suggest dropping one SR and one unit of DC and pick up a pair of assault squads. You'll have to play it and let us know how it does.

Looks fun! Go kill everything tiger! Objectives are for the weak! Unleash fury!!!

The dc dread in close combat are very effective for the points. They would Munch basic troops. The dc squad would go for bigger things. I math hammered and the dc produce allot more wounds for the points

Kill all xeno!

gcornelius112 wrote:
The dc dread in close combat are very effective for the points. They would Munch basic troops. The dc squad would go for bigger things. I math hammered and the dc produce allot more wounds for the points

can you show us said winning mathhammers???

unless you get scouring BGNT or relic you are screwed for objective based missings but who cares be like the DE and just kill not caring about objectives

Im just waiting for Martel to comment on this ha

5dc 3.7 wounds after save.4t sv 3+ on the charge

12 ASM yields 3.7 wounds after save. Does not count power weapons. Does include extra HOW. that would bring it down to 9 asm. But they have jp so storm raven
Assault would not be as effective.

Martel impersonation: "DC are just garbage. 6th edition made them just garbage and trash and garbage. I have 15 pieces of garbage because they're trash."

Seriously though. I agree with most everyone here. I love DC and play them as needed but a list made completely of DC doesn't work. You'll wreck shop don't get me wrong but at the end of the day if 1 lonely model is holding 1 uncontested objective that's 1 point for him.

Besides non scoring how are they garbage?

I think I've said all I need to say about DC on other threads. I don't know why people think its funny that I find DC to be a waste of points. No one has actually refuted the points I've brought up about them.

I know what *should* happen to this list, but it will be interesting to know how your opponents react to it.

Realize that if everything but two tanks is in reserve, and they kill those two tanks, you lose. Just saying. Actually, I don't know if this scheme if even legal. I don't actually know the max reserve rules well because I try to avoid reserves because reserves suck.

Its not legal. SR cannot start on the board, bur since they are not dedicated transports the guys inside can. That means you have 9 things that can be on the board so you need 5 on the board to start the game.

DC minus packs are a great value. Rage, FNP, access to power weapons, and 2A base for 20 points each is a steal if you are looking for combat potential.

I've considered using DC without jump packs to guard my gun lines. But each time I do that, I just think that using regular ASM *with* jump packs is better utility. DC without jump packs have difficulty assaulting without and expensive delivery method.

Remember that the SR is still a SR and can unload a good torrent of firepower untill getting to its destination and can drop off its payload.

Well, it really doesn't matter because the list is not legal, and if it were, you risk being tabled turn 1.

First of all, I was making a friendly jest on my "impersonation". Second of all how is the list not legal? It has 6 troops choices, 2 fast 3 heavy and an HQ. Astorath takes the 0-1 away from DC and you need 5 DC to unlock a Dread. I'm not seeing how it's not legal...

It's not legally deployed. One must field half their units that have the option of being deployed at the beginning of the game. Units that must deep strike (and units aboard) them don't count towards this total. but units in reserve do. The Stormravens themselves dont' count towards this, but the dreads and DC and Astorath do. He has nine units that don't have exemptions, so he must deploy at least five to start.

How could I make this work Then?

One way to make this legal would be to trade out a stormraven for a land raider and then deploy that corresponding DC dread nought with a drop pod. That doesn't quite do it, but it's a primary swap out that you can start from.


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Actually the drop pod makes the dread not even count for deployment. The edition is really hard for the people who want mass reserves.

Scouts and Astroth start on field. Everything else reserved.

# Steam roller DC SR (1999pts)
# 2000pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster (Primary Detachment)
## Blood Angels 5th Edition (Primary Detachment) Selections:
### HQ (220pts)
- **Astorath the Grim (220pts)**



### Elites (375pts)
- **Furioso Dreadnought (125pts)**

- **Furioso (125pts)**

Blood Talon with built-in Meltagun

- **Blood Talon**

Built-in Storm Bolter


- **Furioso Dreadnought (125pts)**

- **Furioso (125pts)**

Blood Talon with built-in Meltagun

- **Blood Talon**

Built-in Storm Bolter


- **Furioso Dreadnought (125pts)**

- **Furioso (125pts)**

Blood Talon with built-in Meltagun

- **Blood Talon**

Built-in Storm Bolter



### Troops (804pts)
- **Death Company (190pts)**

8x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword, 8x Death Company Marine (160pts), 2x Power Sword (30pts)


- **Death Company (190pts)**

8x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword, 8x Death Company Marine (160pts), 2x Power Sword (30pts)


- **Death Company (190pts)**

8x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword, 8x Death Company Marine (160pts), 2x Power Sword (30pts)


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle



### Heavy Support (600pts)
- **Stormraven Gunship (200pts)**

Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta


- **Stormraven Gunship (200pts)**

Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta


- **Stormraven Gunship (200pts)**

Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta



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You have 3 scout squads and Astorath on the field, but a total of 3+1+3+3 units available for deployment. You must deploy 2 more at the start.

Baal infiltrate and scouts camp near objectives. Astroth go with DC and dreadnought. Then when sr come in Alpha strike

# Steam roller DC SR (1994pts)
# 2000pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster (Primary Detachment)
## Blood Angels 5th Edition (Primary Detachment) Selections:
### HQ (220pts)
- **Astorath the Grim (220pts)**



### Elites (270pts)
- **Furioso Dreadnought (135pts)**

- **Furioso (135pts)**

Blood Talon with built-in Meltagun

- **Blood Talon (10pts)**

Built-in Heavy Flamer (10pts)


- **Furioso Dreadnought (135pts)**

- **Furioso (135pts)**

Blood Talon with built-in Meltagun

- **Blood Talon (10pts)**

Built-in Heavy Flamer (10pts)



### Troops (669pts)
- **Death Company (210pts)**

9x Bolt Pistol, 7x Chainsword, 9x Death Company Marine (180pts), 2x Power Sword (30pts)


- **Death Company (225pts)**

9x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword, 9x Death Company Marine (180pts), 3x Power Sword (45pts)


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle


- **Scout Squad (78pts)**

4x Scouts (52pts), 4x Sniper Rifle

- **Veteran Sergeant (26pts)**

Bolt Pistol, Camo Cloak (3pts), Sniper Rifle



### Fast Attack (435pts)
- **Baal Predator (145pts)**

Heavy Bolters (30pts), Twin Linked Assault Cannon


- **Baal Predator (145pts)**

Heavy Bolters (30pts), Twin Linked Assault Cannon


- **Baal Predator (145pts)**

Heavy Bolters (30pts), Twin Linked Assault Cannon



### Heavy Support (400pts)
- **Stormraven Gunship (200pts)**

Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta


- **Stormraven Gunship (200pts)**

Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta



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This list is better because of AV 13 spam you are fielding now. It is also legal and has some scoring models. A lot better than the original list.

Thank you. Any constructive criticism?

Maybe make one of the Baals an auto/las pred. Other than that, the list will likely do what you want it to. Be aware, that this is probably a win big or lose big list. If someone shoots down a stormraven with all those DC on it........

I am banking on having the str 6 weapons gone by the opponents second shooting phase. SR will have 4+ cover save also and snipers should pin what i can't destroy

I was looking at army composition and not reading how he was planning on deploying them. You are correct Martel.

I also have to agree with Martel in the fact that it's win big or tabled quickly.

You should plan to have the S6 weapons gone don't bank on it. Be prepared to completely change your strategy.

I think the list can be very solid if handled right.

Also just FYI don't post points for individual pieces of wargear. That's big no-no on Dakka.

There are many sources of fearless in this game that makes pinning very iffy.

I would almost think that an aegis line with an uplink is almost necessary given how much is reserved. If you roll poorly for reserves, it's over fast.