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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/18 23:26:52
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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So for my birthday i recieved arjac rockfist and another 5 man termie wolf guard squad. Now i already have one 5 man squad with 4 combi plasma and assault cannon. 1 chain fist and 2 axes and 2 swords. In a droppped as well. Now my question is is it possible to really make a 10 man termie squad work as an ally? If not i have x2 10man hunter squads with melta guns in pods and i have a rune priest. So i could do wolves with guard as allies. My guard is a general gunline theme so the pod assault is a great tactic. I had figured that if i was going to use 2 squads would Logan grim be a viable hq? Also how can i squeeze arjac in with them. Im just looking for ideas to just make use of what i got. Im going to have to get these termies another drop pod. But how else could i equip this squad? Same as last? Thanks for the help!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/01/19 05:21:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 18:19:33
Subject: Re:Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Anybody? Any tips?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 14:48:05
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Storm Lance
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I have contemplated using them as a hard outflanking unit with a Wolf Priest (Saga of the Hunter). Just got to make them shooty. I'd go with 5x WG Termies, mix and mash PW to have some axes and some fists and add in a Assault Cannon for spite. Also, maybe some combi flamers for charge defense? IDK about Arjac though, he is a bit pricey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 15:47:01
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Flamers are not a charge deterrent. If someone who is about to charge a squad with 2+ saves and kitted out with power weapons decides not to because of a few str4 hits, then they're pretty crazy.
He may be costly, but he really is a beast. With a small retinue he can easily take down any enemy HQ or MC. However, don't take him with Logan or you won't have enough points for the meat and potatoes.
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Star Trek taught me so much. Like, how you should accept people, whether they be black, white, Klingon or even female...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 17:00:11
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Storm Lance
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Well, I know those same flamers won't impress any MEQ, but any Space Elf (light or dark flavor), 'Nid, Ork, or Daemon would balk at charging 4 combi-flamer dudes. YMMV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 17:15:19
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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A Musketeer wrote:Well, I know those same flamers won't impress any MEQ, but any Space Elf (light or dark flavor), 'Nid, Ork, or Daemon would balk at charging 4 combi-flamer dudes. YMMV.
No.
Also, you're spending 5pts and a slot on what is essentially a bolter when you're saving the flamer for over-watch (if I take your argument that you won't get charged at face value). That's not cost efficient, nor is it a intelligent use of special weapons slots. It's much more useful to pack them out with combi-plasma or combi-melta, and use it on something other than over-watch.
Bolters (again, by taking your argument of flamer charge defence) are not a "shooty" option. You might as well grab more GH if you're outflanking WG with...bolters. The GH would be better. Cheaper, special weapons that can fire more than once, scoring. An assault cannon doesn't make up for that.
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Star Trek taught me so much. Like, how you should accept people, whether they be black, white, Klingon or even female...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 17:32:44
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Storm Lance
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Yeah, I know GH are a better outflanking choice. I also am not a a fan of SW Termies that aren't maybe leading a foot squad of GH. But like I said, I contemplated outflanking termies that are scoring, never tried it (well, other than the old DW ally).
Anyhoot, I think the OP would be best served by having them join his ally GH. It's usually a better choice than paying for the Old Wolf and then having scoring termies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 17:54:10
Subject: Re:Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/502284.page#5204698 Heres the army list that I made with the models I have. Normally I play guard with wolf allies but I really wanted to work with these termies so I figured I would try wolves with guard allies.
Generally my termies will have combi plasma as they will try to destroy some big targets.
I wanted to make use of most of the termies I had and since your allied detachment can only have 1 elite slot I figured I could use SW as my primary and have logan make them troops and they would be a little more of a threat.
One of my biggest challenges is just always making the decision on going with a claw or a sword
Also is it better to go with a Cyclone missile launcher and a storm bolter or an assault cannon? My termies will pretty much always be coming down by drop pod.
When I was looking at arjac's profile I realized hes a pretty powerful beat stick so I figured I would really like to try him out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 18:14:50
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Storm Lance
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Well, on the topic of sword vs claw my opinion is sword (or better yet power axe for the +1s ap2). My reason? It's paid for with the TDA. And for a simple weapon swap, power axes are pretty nice for a WG leader of a GH squad. I think though the WG Termie box only brings one axe, so maybe kit bash? Anway, the termies are pricey enough and things that pod are best kept cheap. As for the heavy weapon, I'm a fan of the assault cannon. I tend to put a cyclone termie with my long fangs when I take WG for squad leaders, but that's just me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 18:32:17
Subject: Re:Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Yea I figured the swords were better and currently I have a mix of axes and swords as I wanted them cheap.
For the assault cannon and the cyclone missile launcher I just wasnt sure which one would have better killing power. I know the 2 s8 ap3 rockets could damage a wide variety of targets and the storm bolter is just extra. The assault cannon is s6 ap 4 and also has rending if you roll 6's to wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 19:18:22
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Storm Lance
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I just remembered the Assault Cannon costs the same as the Cyclone.
Go with the cyclone; you get 2 AT shots at str8 as well as 2 str4 small blasts for the same cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 19:31:42
Subject: Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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A Musketeer wrote:I just remembered the Assault Cannon costs the same as the Cyclone.
Go with the cyclone; you get 2 AT shots at str8 as well as 2 str4 small blasts for the same cost.
But that's 2 pretty gakky AT shots. Ap3 is not exactly stellar when it comes to popping tanks. When you compare that 30pts for 2 AT shots to 5pts for a (single) melta shot, which has more chance to pen, and when it does pen gets an explosion 50% of the time.
But...the assault cannon doesn't exactly synergise well with combi-plasma or combi-melta, the ap3 krak can at least help with knocking out MEQ.
So yeah, I pretty much talked myself into agreeing with you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/23 04:53:11
Subject: Re:Wolf guard termie allies for guard
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Alrighty well thats what I shall do with this up coming squad I will atleast have a cyclone with stormbolter.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/23 07:15:25
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