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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 19:50:21
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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So going to try out my BA in an upcoming tournament. I decided to try something different from my usual lists:
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Mephiston (never used him before so maybe try him out. I know he got nerfed by 6th ed. but he is still good IMO)
Elite:
Fragnought, heavy flamer, drop pod
Fragnought, melta, drop pod
Troops:
10 tactical squad, melta, MM, sgt with combi melta, drop pod (the basic idea is to combat squad them when they come out (if not a kill points mission) Then shoot an armored target with melta fire and run the other half to be a meat shield for the melta squad. Then hopefully able to shoot the MM next turn.)
So three pods that give me some choise on what to bring on turn 1. If against a horde army, both fragnoughts on turn one, if mech army, then tactical and meltagun fragnought to try and punch some holes into the armors.
5 assault marines, melta, razor with las/plas
5 assault marines, melta, razor with las/plas
5 assault marines, JP, melta (these are basically gonna be fodder to give my tanks cover on turn 1 or to fly ahead of mephiston and give him some cover.
Heavy support:
vindicator
vindicator
Stormraven, TL MM, TL LC (the anti flyer of my list)
total: 1750pts.
So how does this list look? Will be playtesting and modifying the list if needed douring the following months, but this is the base of my list where i start to finetune it. I really want to use the three pods and fragnoughts as they have worked well for me in the past. C&C welcome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 21:42:57
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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I think this is an above average list. I don't know the particulars of the tourney you are playing in.
I've used Mephiston twice in 6th edition before I realized the utility of the generic libby is so much greater. Rolling the divination power to give an ASM unit a 4++ save is game changing. Mephiston can't compete with that kind of force multiplication. You can have two regular libbies for the same price. It's not being an IC that really kills him for me. If they FAQed him to be IC, I'd still use him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/21 22:29:10
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Youth wracked by nightmarish visions
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Hey looking at your list here is a couple of observations:
1. Mephiston is a beast, just be careful where you use him. He is not the beat stick he once was but is now a scalpel. Challenges should keep him safe from Powerfists and he will make your opponents cringe when you place him on the table.
2. Think about getting some magna grapples for the fragnoughts.
3. I think you will find the razorback's lacking in effectiveness. They are pretty expensive for what they do and will go down quickly.
4. Try to get some dozer blades on the vindies. They always immobilize themselves at the most inopportune times.
5. Think about the TL-AssCan for the Raven. It will allow it to be more versatile after the missiles are gone.
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Knights of Blood
BA-W: 12 L: 4 D: 0
GK-W:10 L: 5 D: 1
Tourney Results: 9th and Best Sports(10/20/12) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 06:17:29
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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I usually run a JP libby, but wanted to try something different. Razorbacks are pretty vulnerable so maybe i drop them and get two 10man assault squads with JP instead of the razor assaults. Then just have to find some points for a priest to jump with the RAS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 08:12:56
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Been Around the Block
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I started playing 40k in 6th edition (in October I think), and I play Blood Angels.
I bought 2x Razorbacks w. Las/TL plasma.
I have yet to try them, they have always been destroyed in turn 1.
Imo, a 5x ASM + Melta (110 pts) is better than 2x Razors in 6th ed. anyday for BA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 09:09:30
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Did you have any other tanks?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 09:16:58
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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no other tanks exept one rhino, but am proxying it as the other vindicator for playtesting. Still need to buy and paint the other vindicator. I would love to get some dakka baals, but then my other stuff would not fit into the army and i need troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 09:41:22
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Your razors are dying from lack of armor saturation, not because razorbacks are bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 10:37:43
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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Lol, i thought you were refering to me  i have no problems with my razors usually, as my dreads and vindies take higher priority usually for my opponent, so the razors get a few turns in before becoming priority targets and then they have usually done their job well enough. And they get reduced prize for tje assaults, so they don't cost that much either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 13:01:27
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Been Around the Block
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When I played last game, I lost 1x Baal Predator and 2x Razorback in T1.
I played 1x Baal Pred, 2x Razorback, 1x Dreadnought and a Tactical Squad deployed on T1.
I played against GK with 3x Rifledreds and a couple of + Psycannons and whatnot (can't really remember)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 13:15:21
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Grey Knight Purgator firing around corners
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Greetings Brother captains,
I notice that you got 2 Furioso DR on drop pods in your list. I would equip a Furioso DR with blood talons and let him hitch a ride in the stormraven. He would finish off T3 cultists/guards/hordes and left over marines once he got on the board that way rather than just standing on the open and get blasted away when arriving by drop pods. And swap the other Furioso DR with brother Corbulo. Corbulo is a really annoying tank in 6th edition. He just could not die. 3+ armor saves and 2+ FNP on itself and 1 extra reroll. Put corbulo with 10 tac squad plasmagun + multimelta and place him behind aegis defense line manning a quadgun. Thus you get: Overwatch, (4+) coversave, FNP, antiflyer, and a scoring unit just to name a few.
Again, I would avoid rhino/razorbacks in 6th because AV11 with 3 HP unit dies easily and you don't want to give your opponent first blood.
Vindicators are ok. But I would prefer missile Devastators due to FNP and signum
But that's just me
Don't forget to roll for red thirst, by Sanguinius!
For the Emperor!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 15:15:48
Subject: Re:BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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first off... putting the furioso in the stormraven means it's arriving at the earliest on turn 2, not on turn1 as i want. Also it can't charge out on the turn it arrives, so will be assaulting on turn 3 the earliest. What a waste of points to wait three turns to get a dread to do something. The reason why fragnoughts is that 6th edition is much more a shooty game and if i drop a bloodtalon furioso with pod, it will get shot up. With fragnoughts i can do serious damage from the moment they arrive and if not dealt with even more. Corbulo is good, but i would not waste him sitting behind an ADL firing a quad gun. Tried that and he was a waste of points in every game when my opponent then shot the rest of my army and ignored the though bunch of marines behind the ADL.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 15:20:02
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Just a couple of things: Fragnaughts got destroyed with the new FAQ. You will have to take the melta now and lose the heavy flamer if you want to kill anything outside your template range.
I would agree with dropping mephi, take 2 regular libbys and upgrade one to an epistolary. Take divination on both and hope for the 4++ power. Throw the libby in with the 5 man ASM with JP's in the SR and use the skies of blood special rule to drop them as an objective grab late game. It is really great not having to jink and still be able to save your flyer 50% of the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/22 17:27:31
Subject: BA 1750pts. Tournament list. C&C needed.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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That in no way destroys fragnoughts. People bunch up a lot in 6th edition. And it still destroys a template shaped section of a squad.
Don't ever transport anything in a Stormraven. Ever.
Don't use DC dreads, because you have to take DC to get them, and blood talons are not worth all the effort, imo.
Rhinos and razorback work just fine in 6th unless you are getting shot by a trio of psyriflemen. The BA stack up poorly vs GK no matter what you do. So you might as well have them in your all comers list.
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