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I am a bit stuck on a rule. A fast open-topped vehicle for example an ork trukk moves at combat speed with a squad of burnas in it, it can still fire two weapons and the rest are snap shots. Does this mean only two individual models can fire their burnas or can the whole squad fire and count as one 'weapon'?

i.e. do all the members of a unit in a vehicle count as one weapon when firing or are each of the models separate 'weapons' for firing?

Thanks

IIRC Fast does nothing for passengers, if you move the vehicle with combat speed the inhabitants, who can shoot (in an open topped vehicle that would be every passenger) count as moved but can otherwise shoot normally. If you drive cruising speed the passengers can only snapshot.

btw this is the wrong forum, your question belongs in ymdc.

Deadly Hinch wrote:
I am a bit stuck on a rule. A fast open-topped vehicle for example an ork trukk moves at combat speed with a squad of burnas in it, it can still fire two weapons and the rest are snap shots. Does this mean only two individual models can fire their burnas or can the whole squad fire and count as one 'weapon'?

i.e. do all the members of a unit in a vehicle count as one weapon when firing or are each of the models separate 'weapons' for firing?

Thanks

The limitation on what weapons can fire snap shots and full bs, as you have mentioned are just effects on the vehicles, the effects on passengers are listed in a seperate section, but they are basically combat speed can shoot count as moved i.e snap shot heavy weapons etc. Move at at cruising speed all passengers snap shot i.e hit 6+ on all weapons, can't fire template or blasts.

Also I think because its open topped, all passengers can always fire out of it.

From the way I read it, you can fire all of your burnas if you go combat speed. Burnas are "Assault 1."

This is all at combat speed i believe. Burnas are template and I do not believe can be fired as snap shots, which would cause a problem at crusing speed.

I am new to 40k, and still assembling my Trukks so reading about these questions is good for me.

**Edited out the "double template"** for clarity

Just confirming what btr75 said: Burna weapons are templates and as such cannot fire snap shots. So if you move more than 6", the burna boys can only hold on for the ride.

It's 7 inches with a red paint job.

And you are all correct. Plus the part about dropping one template and counting it for ALL the burnas inside is correct. Ork open top goodness LOL

However, the new FAQ states that you cannot wound models that are out of range of your weapons, so those short range burnas are less effective now.

Just upgrade one of them to Mek with KMB and the problem goes away.

Yeah I love how you can put the template once for all of the burnas. In one game the other day, my 8 burnas got 64 shots to wound on a 3+!!!

When I finish my Trukk, I know who the passengers might be for a first go around!

actually put 15 in a battlewagon with a deff rolla then go roll stuff, and when your opponent decides to charge the battlewagon you give him 15D3 overwatch wall of death shots. Then the next turn 15 templates assuming he lives through the overwatch. Its pretty deadly.

I have one of them too. Don't tell the Humies...

Deadly Hinch wrote:
Yeah I love how you can put the template once for all of the burnas. In one game the other day, my 8 burnas got 64 shots to wound on a 3+!!!

Today, that would mean a max of about 4 dead guys.

Luide wrote:
Just upgrade one of them to Mek with KMB and the problem goes away.

What he said.

In one game a couple weeks back I got 108 hits with a trukk full of burnaz. Wiped the entire unit to win the game on the last turn.

clively wrote:

Deadly Hinch wrote:
Yeah I love how you can put the template once for all of the burnas. In one game the other day, my 8 burnas got 64 shots to wound on a 3+!!!

Today, that would mean a max of about 4 dead guys.

...unless of course you include a Mek with a Kustom Mega Blasta or something, as already mentioned above.

I have another question. If burnas get assaulted, if they overwatch does that count as firing for the purpose of using power weapons in assault?

Deadly Hinch wrote:
I have another question. If burnas get assaulted, if they overwatch does that count as firing for the purpose of using power weapons in assault?

Yes. Page 4 of the Ork FAQ.

Ok thanks. I will read that now