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I was reading through fluff and i got onto the 13th black crusade and Cadia. I was reading how Abaddon plans to overload the pylons (supposedly Necron in origin) which hold back the EoT, using the Crimson Path. This is by flooding cadia with daemons to destroy the pylons and bring the EoT to cadia. He'll then leapfrog all the way to Terra and engulf it in the EoT. I know around the EoT Necrons are almost exclusively targeting chaos forces. Is this their main reason for their current mass awakening?

No, they were set to reawaken by the Silent King.

As Blood Reaper has said, they are awaking because they were programmed to do so at a set time. Chaos was not even a thing when they went nappy time.

As said by others, they were just programmed, their is to retake what's theirs and kill anything that draws breath.

But, I'm sure they understand that chaos would be major threat to bringing order and control. So they could theoretically work parallel to another force but I doubt they would pool resources or even communicate.

 blood reaper wrote:
No, they were set to reawaken by the Silent King.

This, he reawakened them again in hope that he would unite them once again to fought off the Tyranid invasions before they get to strong to be beat.

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
As Blood Reaper has said, they are awaking because they were programmed to do so at a set time. Chaos was not even a thing when they went nappy time.

That is possibly true now, but originally, the birth of Chaos is the reason they went into hibernation.

The Pylons being Necron in origin might not even be true anymore.

 blood reaper wrote:
No, they were set to reawaken by the Silent King.

Close.

Yes they were set to awaken by the Silent King; however, the Silent King also free'd the various royalty and set off to leave the galaxy. On his way out he saw the Tyranid Hive Fleets and turned around. Since coming back to the galaxy he has been going from one Tomb World to the next awakening them for the coming war.




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 Void__Dragon wrote:


That is possibly true now, but originally, the birth of Chaos is the reason they went into hibernation.

The Pylons being Necron in origin might not even be true anymore.

Not sure why you think the birth of Chaos was their reason for hibernation.... The necrons beat the old ones, then threw off the shackles of the C'Tan. After this they saw that the various races the old ones had seeded, like the Eldar were rising and that they weren't in a state to fight them effectively. So, they went to sleep in order to repair and give time for the various races to knock themselves out.

There's a little more to it than that; but the Great Sleep really didn't have to do with Chaos.

The Old Ones did use the warp, which was one of the reasons the necrons had such a hard time fighting them and the reason for the Pylons and other warp fighting tech.

If by pylons you mean blackstone fortresses, since the retcon their status is in flux. Remember that the warp did exist during the War in Heaven (where the Necrons and C'Tan fought the Old Ones and several of their created races, which included the eldar and possibly the Orks), and warp powers were the Old Ones main advantage against the advanced Necrontyr technology (due to the stability of the warp during that time, not only were psychic powers safer to use, but could probably pushed to farther limits). It's not unrealistic to assume the Necrons developed the fortresses as a weapon to use against the old ones, eldar, or even the C'Tan during their rebellion.

But to answer the OP's question, no, it is explicitly stated that Chaos is not the reason for the Necrons awakening. The Silent King ordered the Necrons to enter stasis for 60 million years at the culmination of the war in Heaven (which resulted in the extinction of the old ones and the shattering of the C'Tan) so that the Necron race could, in essence, wait out the Eldar, who were in a position to push back and defeat the Necrons (who had exhausted themselves defeating the old ones and the C'Tan). The theory was that the Eldar would forgot about the Necrons after some time and then wipe themselves out (which proved to be fairly accurate), allowing the Necrons to reawaken and reclaim the galaxy unopposed (which proved less accurate). They aren't waking up in response to anything, they are waking up because their alarm clock is going 'beep beep beep'.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
As Blood Reaper has said, they are awaking because they were programmed to do so at a set time. Chaos was not even a thing when they went nappy time.

That is possibly true now, but originally, the birth of Chaos is the reason they went into hibernation.

The Pylons being Necron in origin might not even be true anymore.

This is true now, the old fluff no longer matters. They Killed the Old ones, then turned around and nuked the C'tan then the silent king got all emo and told em to go sleepy sleep. Chaos as a concept was not really around 60 million years back. It is a very real possablity that the war and over use of the then young warp is what lead to the creation or "warping" of native warp lifeforms however.

If by pylons you mean blackstone fortresses, since the retcon their status is in flux.

He means the giant alien pylons that dot the surface of Cadia. It is (supposed) that they are what makes the stable route into/out of the Eye of Terror. The alien race that made them has never been clarified, but it has been assumed to be the Necrontyr.

Each ones surface is dotted with thousands of openings that lead inwards, that the wind makes an eerie moaning as it passes over that can be head a large distance away. Many Techpriests have tried to send probe-Servitors into the openings to map their insides, but they have never come back out.

clively wrote:
Not sure why you think the birth of Chaos was their reason for hibernation.... The necrons beat the old ones, then threw off the shackles of the C'Tan. After this they saw that the various races the old ones had seeded, like the Eldar were rising and that they weren't in a state to fight them effectively. So, they went to sleep in order to repair and give time for the various races to knock themselves out.

There's a little more to it than that; but the Great Sleep really didn't have to do with Chaos.

The Old Ones did use the warp, which was one of the reasons the necrons had such a hard time fighting them and the reason for the Pylons and other warp fighting tech.

Before the fifth edition abortion of fluff, it had everything to do with Chaos.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

clively wrote:
Not sure why you think the birth of Chaos was their reason for hibernation.... The necrons beat the old ones, then threw off the shackles of the C'Tan. After this they saw that the various races the old ones had seeded, like the Eldar were rising and that they weren't in a state to fight them effectively. So, they went to sleep in order to repair and give time for the various races to knock themselves out.

There's a little more to it than that; but the Great Sleep really didn't have to do with Chaos.

The Old Ones did use the warp, which was one of the reasons the necrons had such a hard time fighting them and the reason for the Pylons and other warp fighting tech.

Before the fifth edition abortion of fluff, it had everything to do with Chaos.

The Enslavers were warp beings, but I don't think they had any connection to Chaos.

 Sasori wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

clively wrote:
Not sure why you think the birth of Chaos was their reason for hibernation.... The necrons beat the old ones, then threw off the shackles of the C'Tan. After this they saw that the various races the old ones had seeded, like the Eldar were rising and that they weren't in a state to fight them effectively. So, they went to sleep in order to repair and give time for the various races to knock themselves out.

There's a little more to it than that; but the Great Sleep really didn't have to do with Chaos.

The Old Ones did use the warp, which was one of the reasons the necrons had such a hard time fighting them and the reason for the Pylons and other warp fighting tech.

Before the fifth edition abortion of fluff, it had everything to do with Chaos.

The Enslavers were warp beings, but I don't think they had any connection to Chaos.

I disliked the old fluff, but as far as I know you are correct. They had nothing to do with Chaos, that has not changed. The warp gods simply were not around during the war in heaven.

I really hope the Necrons don't turn into good guys, having them fight as allies with the Blood Angels was bad enough.

ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:
I really hope the Necrons don't turn into good guys, having them fight as allies with the Blood Angels was bad enough.

Well, if you read their codex, you'll find they are far from good guys.

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
As Blood Reaper has said, they are awaking because they were programmed to do so at a set time. Chaos was not even a thing when they went nappy time.

yeah pretty much this.
Originally I think it was chaos that put them down but since the fluff has changed It was voluntary and the timer on their alarm clock just went off.

ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:
I really hope the Necrons don't turn into good guys, having them fight as allies with the Blood Angels was bad enough.

They are flexable, good no. Much Like the Eldar the Necron are the "master race", to them everyone else including the Eldar are upstart insects. They might "team up" with someone for reasons you will likely never understand, another group might kill everything that moves, one group might be so kinda was to give you 48 hours to live the world before they kill you all and so forth. The Necron are no longer united, but very much a series of factions.

Of course all the Necron Tomb Worlds near the Eye of Terror would target the Cadian Gate. Why wouldn't they? There's a high concentration of hostiles there, it's not worth trying to relocate to a different area to chase down a different target.

The way I've understood it, the Ne(w)crons are reawakening to rebuild their empire, and are focusing more on major threats, like Tyranids. Chaos, while an obvious danger to them, isn't as outright destructive to Necrons, who are psychic blanks and therefore don't really care about daemonic corruption.
It's probably not true, but I've always thought that Daemons had a hard time staying materialized near groups of Necrons due to their blanket of blankness.

Who is the Silent King?

No one knows. He isn't saying.

 Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Who is the Silent King?

Effectively the Emperor of the Necron(tyr) Empire prior to putting the entire race to sleep after leading them to destroy the Old Ones and the C'tan. Now, he's trying to reunite the Necron empire in time to be able to squash the Nids before all biomass is consumed and the Necrons lose their chance to return to bodies of flesh.

As king Pariah has said, he was the over all leader of the United Necrotyr Dynasties. It was also he who made the deal with the C'tan and killed his whole race. He also had command codes and all of the Necron race did as he commanded, they had no other option. But he not only but then to sleep but destroyed the command codes that gave hims total control over the whole race.

I dissagree that the Necrons would turn up and help a beleaguered force without saying something then just leave, bare in mind the character that the new fluff has given the Necron nobles, these guys are arrogant beyond belief and travel around in courts, I could fully see a Necron noble presenting himself with fanfare and honor guard resplendent in his finest curtain to 1. Take the mick 2. Make himself feel better and 3. negotiate a better deal for helping against a common threat.

What with the codes and protocols of warfare that even the generals tend to abide by, even a hated foe they have to send a declaration of hostilities before they can do anything, arguably there best assassination unit, Deathmarks, can rarely ever be used.... unless your a dick.... or Sezras....

All in if it fit the Nobles plan. Maybe helping the insects was good for long term goals, even if saying way or even speaking to them was not? These guys do not think like Humans, they have goals that really could span a hundred thousand years, the whole of the IoM was an eyeblink for the Old Necrontyr empire, much less the Deathless Necron.

Some would use fanfair and the whole nine yards, because it was they way they are or suited the goal to do so. Some say nothing and more or less ignore the insects around them.