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They should just make a bloody movie already.

Heh, was just about to post it. That's why I love zerg.

It was pretty badass I got to say.


Im a Terran player and I thought that was the coolest thing

Well.....I guess Il need to buy it now.

I have always loved Blizzard cinematics.

Nice, I have to unban my account or get blizz to switch my copy of SC2 over to my D3 account. Somehow my WoW accounts got hacked a year after I stopped playing and the bnet account had SC2 on it. I tried to play SC2 a couple months ago after learning HotS was up for preorder, but due to the actions of them scum bag gold sellers SC2 was also frozen.

Never liked the original game, but I've always loved Blizzard's cinematics. I would totally play a non-RTS Starcraft game or watch a movie or something.

I dunno man blizzard games seem to overhype the sh*t out of everything and then the game ends up being good but a grind or totally competitive in the multiplayer. I dunno i like starcraft but it's lacking something. Would've been nice if we didn't still have workers and gatherers like the game never progressed beyond the rts games of yester-year. I dunno i just find it dumb that the game is so much about macro and how fast you can click rather than i dunno unit composition or something. I guess if you can click a bunch of zerglings or marines and separate them enough against a bunch of banelings then it becomes a total waste for the banelings. I dunno most rts games these days have squads. Then again i haven't played too many rts's in a few years.

Ugh sorry i just had to rant. The cinematic looks good it's just it's kind of true blizzard games disappoint a bit. I was so excited for diablo 3 and it was good till it became a grind in act 2 inferno. It just stopped being fun. I dunno.

I'm getting fed up with Blizzard honestly. It irritates me, because I want to play this game extremely badly. I love the storyline of Starcraft. I refuse to pay $60 for half a game though. I can already play multiplayer SC2.

This, after a shoddy remake of Diablo 2 and slapping a 3 on it, I'm just not sure I can get onboard with them anymore.

To be fair, HotS isn't full price. I pre-ordered it for.. I think 35 euros.

 Soladrin wrote:
To be fair, HotS isn't full price. I pre-ordered it for.. I think 35 euros.

Well look at that... last I heard they were going to charge $60 for it, but I'm seeing it out there for $40. That's not horrible. I may have to retract my gripe.

Blizzard's cinematics seem to have become more and more specacular while at the same time becoming more and more shallow. The Tycus preview one was pretty good but the rest were utterly forgetable (due to the fact that I can't remember any)

The SC1 cinematics were excellent but obviously much more limited.

I can't really be bothered getting this, Blizzard have simply lost my interest which is a shame as they used to be my favourite developer.

I wonder if she's still angry about the whole Mengsk thing...

Palindrome wrote:
Blizzard's cinematics seem to have become more and more specacular while at the same time becoming more and more shallow. The Tycus preview one was pretty good but the rest were utterly forgetable (due to the fact that I can't remember any)

The SC1 cinematics were excellent but obviously much more limited.

I can't really be bothered getting this, Blizzard have simply lost my interest which is a shame as they used to be my favourite developer.

Actually, the only Starcaft cinematics I really liked had been the Trailer for Wings of Liberty (not the intro), the intro for Brood War, and the UED victory.

Ive liked ALL of the Warcraft 3 cinematics that ive seen.(The Orc victory in WC 3 was only okay however)

I liked the diablo 3 cinematics a lot. Still can't get over the sound of diablo's voice in diablo 3. God that was crap-tastic. Not to mention diablo boobs (you'd get it if you played).

I dunno what to think of 'Wings of Liberty's cinematics. The Char cinematics were pretty good (both the assault and preliminary battle scenes). Some of the other scenes like kerrigan's return with the zerg was good. I think the scenes were memorable but we saw a ton of the trailers before the game was released like the one with zeratul and kerrigan as well as others. It's not that they were bad or unmemorable so much that we basically already saw them.

As far as kerrigan goes i'm honestly sick of seeing her. Mengsk betraying her was a big deal in the terran campaign, she was a huge deal in the zerg campaign (until her idiocy cost zasz his life and we never see her stupid face again till brood war), we see her in both the protoss and terran brood war campaigns and then she has her own brood war campaign where she basically wins (mostly due to her allies being complete idiots and pawns with no plans of their own). If this wasn't enough the central focus of WoL became kerrigan and her transformation back to being human which seems to be a nearly complete waste of time from some views of HotS which she stars in the main role yet again (like brood war's zerg campaign). I honestly wished raynor could've put a bullet in her head at the end of the WoL campaign or that raynor would move on with his life (it hurts me to see that she had to live for the galaxy to survive because i want her to die already). Dude she's basically your crazy psycho b*tch ex-girlfriend. That's exactly what she is. Move on dude. Save the galaxy and then bone Dr. Hanson. I don't care just stop moping around for some woman that totally screwed you over and abused your trust. I know it was her zerg form but still.

 djones520 wrote:
I'm getting fed up with Blizzard honestly. It irritates me, because I want to play this game extremely badly. I love the storyline of Starcraft. I refuse to pay $60 for half a game though. I can already play multiplayer SC2.

This, after a shoddy remake of Diablo 2 and slapping a 3 on it, I'm just not sure I can get onboard with them anymore.

My whole gripe with this is you have to have it to play multiplayer, they should have made it just a campaign expansion and charged 30 for it

Is it just me or did they change how the Queen of Blades looks in this? She looks a lot more human, has less green in her colourations, her face doesn't look like its rotting, she has glowing light purple eyes and markings where before she had orange. Not complaining coz she looks a lot more awesome and hot like that.

Really hope she turns back into the QoB during the game.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Is it just me or did they change how the Queen of Blades looks in this? She looks a lot more human, has less green in her colourations, her face doesn't look like its rotting, she has glowing light purple eyes and markings where before she had orange. Not complaining coz she looks a lot more awesome and hot like that.

Really hope she turns back into the QoB during the game.

Ugh yeah but that would make WoL feel as if the whole campaign was basically rendered pointless and useless. They may as well have let kerrigan just win in WoL if that was the case. I'm sure she'll be more moral than before (she better f*ckin be or i'm gonna be p*ssed). I dunno as things have gone i have utterly hated her as a character and the obsession the story seems to have with her as if the whole universe revolves around her. She's so ridiculously arrogant too. God i hate her. At least with mengsk i love to hate him but with kerrigan her plans seemed to rely on so much and they all worked regardless of how stupid the plans were esp. the end result for her allies of convenience. She probably even killed that cerebrate that helped her out during her entire campaign in brood war too (the 'faceless' character you played as). All this considering she threw herself into the worst tactical spot of all time and you had to fend off 3 large fleets due to her stupidity.

She seemed rather pitiful in SC2...

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I liked the diablo 3 cinematics a lot. Still can't get over the sound of diablo's voice in diablo 3. God that was crap-tastic. Not to mention diablo boobs (you'd get it if you played).

I dunno what to think of 'Wings of Liberty's cinematics. The Char cinematics were pretty good (both the assault and preliminary battle scenes). I honestly wished raynor could've put a bullet in her head at the end of the WoL campaign or that raynor would move on with his life (it hurts me to see that she had to live for the galaxy to survive because i want her to die already). .

I meant the actual movie style cutscenes. That Char "in game" cutscenes were amazing


Honostly, that was my biggest problem with the entire campaign. I really like Kerrigan's character but she should not have been allowed to live. Her kill count was how many billion sense she took power? Wasnt it like 7 billion or something? It doesn't matter if she was Zerg, she had enough of her humanity in her that she could choose to kill those people because she wanted to or could care less. (Starcraft shows that on multiple occassasion she retained free will) I actually got mad at the game when they said the prophecy saying she HAD to live. Those untold billions deserve justice.


Im praying Heart of the Swarm has some type of mechanic that lets you choose how Kerrigan reacts. Something like the game has 2 ends, a good ending where she rejects the Zerg and becomes the Kerrigan we once knew, and a bad where she simply proves my point, that she is a monster who can not be trusted and needs to be killed. Ive played a good character in every game but I would make an exception in this game

Agree with the Galdos. Some characters were changed rather peculiarly.

After all Raynor did swore vengeance. He was a tough rebel badass. Now suddenly, BAM! Weak guy totally in love. I'd go with reluctantly saving her 'for the grater good', but this?
Mengsk became incompetent pushover.
Let's not even start about the Overmind.

Campaign in SC2 as in gameplay was fantastic. I don't think any RTS had this much variety in mission objectives. The story was OK-ish. Characters? Well, you can't have it all apparently.

I have to admit, I really like how they did Valerian and Matt.

In "Queen of Blades" Matt looked liked he was too young to know anything. Like a young sidekick (Batman and Robin) yet in WoL he was fairly intelliegent while still idealistic.


Ive glanced at "I, Mengsk" and I thought Valerian was kind of a douche bag. In the game he showed he had major ambition and was kind of a badass... stupid as hell, but a bad ass.


Mengsk seems to be missing that awsome Charisma he had in the first game that made you love him, but his devious whatever it takes attitude that caused you to hate him.
Raynor just seems off but Im not sure why. I want to say its because in the other games he was always sure of himself (and even in Queen of Blades to a degree) and this just has him too unsure of his decisions

I think you have to read blizzard's synopsis of their starcraft 2 characters to really appreciate prince valerian's character. I have to admit i went from thinking he was a pushover pansy-*ss that was added for jrpg love from the south korean community to actually respecting and admiring the guy. Mengsk was basically the disapproving father with a hint of aggression, d*ckishness and never being there for his son. Despite that and his somewhat iffeminate looks he pushed passed it to become a worthy successor and even helped come up with a side plan for raynor. Is he a bit headstrong? Probably. Is he taking big risks? Yes. He does however seem over-confident but almost uncaring of losses even on the terran side. For a supposedly pansy character he wasn't seen freaking out even when raynor came into his HQ in power armor with the expressed interest of putting a bullet in his brain. In fact he stayed completely calm to the point where you have to wonder if he doesn't care at all (probably more likely) or he just has that sort of balls. People have even said there's a chance prince valerian is going to overthrow and murder his own father (mengsk) to seize power. Considering his differing side agenda i have to admit i wouldn't be wholly surprised. Honestly he's probably one of the better new characters.

I really liked tosh for some reason even if some have claimed he's a stereotype (though it might just be eccentricity due to the spectre program). I for some reason would like to see him live. He might be a bad guy but i find it odd that whatever choice you seemed to make in the WoL campaign seemed wholly justified once chosen (as if the end results proved you were right regardless of your choice). I hope so badly tosh isn't dead. A jamaican spectre is a h*ll of a lot more interesting to me than a kerrigan rip-off. Even if said kerrigan rip-off would remind raynor of kerrigan too much and it has that element it just seems lazy and boring overall to me. I actually kind of wish spectres became a bigger part of the game too. If they replaced ghosts i would totally play that. I enjoyed at least seeing them in WoL and being able to use them. Then again that'd mean more anti-big stuff and basically the terran version of fungal growth instead of say the d*mned emp that hurts protoss like a huge can of *ss rape when done right.

So anyway i hope spectres somehow make it into the protoss expansion. I know it's a really long shot and blizzard probably opted to kill them all sadly or never speak of them considering the all too lame rpg tactic of "let's give you a choice and then never show the results of said choice ever again by acting like everybody forgot what happened or avoided it like some huge black hole for plot". Anyway i'd like to see tosh again good guy or bad guy. I'd rather see him to nova any day and i feel he totally doesn't deserve to be out-played by her and then killed completely unaware. Anyway they need to be in the multiplayer unit build. If the dominion gets overthrown i could see it. Somehow i think only mengsk will die but the dominion will be handed down to valerian. They'll probably trust him until he betrays them just as hard as arcturus mengsk ever did. I really hope they don't end this stupidly and have it turn out he was some evil xel naga underling the whole time (like with duran). At least just make him a hapless dupe for the xel naga baddie considering his love for xeno archaeology. I dunno i suppose we'll all have to see. God i hope he doesn't end up being another sort of duran. I feel that'd be utterly stupid. We also have the whole doctor narud thing going anyway (spelled backwards is 'duran' and yeah that's pretty lame actually).

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
We also have the whole doctor narud thing going anyway (spelled backwards is 'duran' and yeah that's pretty lame actually).

Never noticed that... Now I feel like a slow and should have figured that out. The book Flashpoint gives a really good look at Valerian as well, I thought he was just another Mengsk until I read that.

 Dude_I_Suck wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
We also have the whole doctor narud thing going anyway (spelled backwards is 'duran' and yeah that's pretty lame actually).

Never noticed that... Now I feel like a slow and should have figured that out. The book Flashpoint gives a really good look at Valerian as well, I thought he was just another Mengsk until I read that.

Honestly i never noticed that either but then i realize the bigger 'slow' was probably the one that decided to do that with his name in the first place. I suppose the name makes sense but it's never really clever when people do this. It just ends up being incredibly stupid and seemingly childish rather than clever. It's one of those things that ends up stupid like everybody waking up after a story and having it all been a dream so that everything meaningful is nullified. Another example is a person coming back from the dead which nullifies the emotional effect the death had in the first place esp. when said characters are resurrected constantly (dragon ball z, inu yasha in the form of kikyo and higurashi no naku koro ni come to mind). After a while any sort of effect it had makes their deaths seem kind of comic-y and people stop giving a sh*t. Oh look such and such died....again. I guess it's time to bring them back to life. I suppose if they died for good then it'd actually have meaning just leaving the monotony of the constant 'extra lives' thing but still it'd probably take some time for people to actually give a f*ck if they haven't already stopped giving one.

Sorry i just had to rant but there are some story choices or old cliches that make things lame. H*ll i was planning to write a book where the main character from the book dies 1/4 way through so that people realize he was in fact not immortal. Then the story gets carried on from the viewpoints of other characters who may or may not die. I was going to do it to give a sense of vulnerability and urgency to the main characters and hoping the next bunch of characters you grow to learn and love don't die as well. I think i'd restrict the amount of dead main characters to 2 or 3 though. So yeah i suppose if there's a game to compare this to a good one might be the 'call of duty: modern warfare' games where the characters you play as often died. Too bad the silent protaganist thing usually ends up making a character more bland and generic so that people can put themselves in said person's shoes.