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Anybody have any experience with "scout rifles"?

I've been interested in the Ruger Gunsite for a while now.

I like the concept of it, just don't know anyone who has any hands-on experience with them.

Small gun case next to the bed for pistol, rifles are stored in closet. Wife is pregnant now, so I will pick up a full size gun safe soon.

 djones520 wrote:
Oldest is 4, and coincidentally already knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is never to touch my guns without asking for permission.

With little ones I feel guns should be handled like power tools. Both are just as likely to injure or kill a young one, so teach them what they are and let them use them with supervision. Curiosity kills the cat, so take that away and teach respect.

I am amazed at how many people think kids and guns should be completely separated due to danger, but have a lethal garage that kids can easily get to.

I've only shot two 1911s and they both have had frequent FTEs. I've heard that they have lots of issues, but maybe that is just the hip thing to say in my circle of friends.

 easysauce wrote:

even using one for legitimate self defense at your house will, best case scenario, just cost you thousands in legal fees to prove you had it stored properly before you used it.

I'm fairly certain we covered that BS statement once before, yet it still shows up pretending to be a true fact...


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 djones520 wrote:

Now if I can only find somewhere that has 9mm on the shelf...

We haven't had any problems with 9mm ammo for a while here. The ammo hoarding has gotten lots better over the last 12 months.

The only evidence was news stories that didn't back up your statement at all.

You guys think it's a regional thing? We don't have 9mm overflowing from the shelves, but I haven't had any trouble finding range ammo or hollow points.

I haven't looked for .22, weird that it is in short supply. It's cheap blinking ammo, but that's always been the case so really no reason why it should be in short supply now. Are people stockpiling to go vermin hunting?

The S&W SD9 VE is a Clock clone that seems to be fairly popular and has a pretty good price point.

 Ouze wrote:

Sometimes I think all the best innovations in killing people with flying pieces of metal are behind us. That's a sad thought.

Pawn Start had a coach shotgun that included a button activated bayonette for post-shooting stapping action.

Where has the romance of the old times gone...

 Grey Templar wrote:
And then drybrush with Boltgun metal and wash with Badab Black to get that authentic metal look.

Get a Glock and really go for the NMM look

Ended up buying a S&W SD9 VE today. I've played around with it a couple of times and I've enjoyed shooting it. Been meaning to pick up a 9mm carry gun and the reviews I've looked at seem to think that it is a good balance between economy and quality.

 Hordini wrote:
How big is that compared to the Shield?

About an inch longer, ~0.3 inches wider, ~4 oz heavier (without ammo, so the greater capacity will make an impact there). It's definitely an IWB or OWB carry gun IMO. I don't know that I would try to pocket carry that thing, but that's what I have the LCP for.

I think the price difference is around $100-150 depending on where you look. The Shield is pretty nice, and down the line I'll probably pick up something in that size to bridge the gap between the LCP and the SD9 VE

The trigger is the only, through frequent, complaints I have really heard about with this gun. I haven't had any issues with it though. I think there were similar complaints about a hard/long pull with the trigger of the LCP, and I've never replaced that trigger either. So I'm probably just used to triggers like that.

The SD9 VE is 4 inches, I don't know how I would comfortable carry something with 4.5. That would suck.

I'm sitting around the house OCing for a couple of days to get used to the new holster and weight of this thing, it's certainly a step up from a pocket gun.

 Frazzled wrote:

SDs get complaints about the trigger in a big way but if you're fine with it then there's nothing wrong with that piece.

It would probably bother me more if I were had to switch between different guns more often.

Remember you need a quality belt to dsitrubte the weight. A REAL gunbelt not something crappo. I'd suggest Beltmen's, Galco, and CompTac as three options just off the top of my head.

I'll have to look into those. I've been using my old duty belt from the fire department and it has served me pretty well. It was made to carry tools and such, so it works well for a holster.

5 oz is pretty flimsy, I would have to have something like that on a Safe Action trigger

I did get the spring kit to take the trigger down to 5 lbs, but I'm not sure I want to to that route...

 Spacemanvic wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
The SD9 VE is 4 inches, I don't know how I would comfortable carry something with 4.5. That would suck.

I'm sitting around the house OCing for a couple of days to get used to the new holster and weight of this thing, it's certainly a step up from a pocket gun.

Im able to comfortably carry a full size 1911 in an IWB holster, but you have to have the body shape/height for it. Those with a bit more girth seem to have issues in comfortably CC a full size pistol. OWB doesnt present much issue though. A good stiff gunbelt is required either way. Crossbreed makes some nice belts. I use a custom made belt from a local Amish family my inlaws are friendly/distantly related to.

I'm lucky that my gut all extends to the front, and I don't have the Dunlap going on the sides


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 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
I did get the spring kit to take the trigger down to 5 lbs, but I'm not sure I want to to that route...

I would highly recommend a 5 lb pull. I've found 5 lb pulls to be optimum for a practical pistol trigger pull in the real world (TM).

The kit was pretty cheap, only around $25 or so. I don't have the tools to mess with it though, so it would probably be another small expense to have a gun-smith install them. It I do that it would probably just have them adjust the sights and everything else while they are at it.

I got the SD Spring Kit from Apex.

It doesn't look like it would be that hard to change everything out, but just like the brakes on my car there are some things that I like to leave to the specialists

It has a mini-rail, can I just get a tacticool laser?

'Meruca!

I'll just have them adjust the factory sights most likely.

 Ouze wrote:
Did you guys know it was unlawful to carry a firearm into a post office, even with a CCW? I did not. (there wasn't an incident, just randomly came across it).

 d-usa wrote:
It has a mini-rail, can I just get a tacticool laser?

I wish mine did, I would have liked to add a light to it.

Falls under "federal facility" doesn't it?

Until they see a turtle in your yard. Then they will federalize your porch and take your dogs!

Decided to go ahead and get the trigger modified and took it to the gun smith at my local range. 30 minutes later and now it has a pretty nice trigger pull.

Shot 100 rounds through the gun after I had it adjusted without any failures. Consistently missed low and left, but was able to correct that by working on my trigger pull with the new setup. I'm guessing a couple more trips to the range and I should have it dialed in.

If you ever get robbed by somebody that is high, just wave the gun back and forth...

I have always liked the idea behind the scout rifle.

I have a carbine Mosin-Nagant that I wouldn't mind turning into one.

I was spending memorial day with my dad and family in Indiana and had a good time doing some shooting. As we were heading out my dad gave me a little going away present:



A little Herbert Schmidt Ostheim Model 21S, for both .22LR and .22M.

Nothing fancy, but he said it was the first gun he ever purchased for himself and he got it the year that I was born.

Near Terra Haute

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
LOL 40k is cheap... guns are cheap too... its the ammo that does you in... imagine if every D6 you rolled cost you 25-50cents....

You're giving GM ideas

*strokes beard* brilliant... one shot dice. Hmmm that's just all about marketing. Single use dice.... Oh yes. I have an idea~! Quickly! To the Dynamic Investment Portfolio cave!

OT: I think the WWPD folks did a FoW tournament and fundraiser for wounded warriors: rerolls for sale at $1 each, benefits going to Wounded Warriors. I'm sure people were making it rain in there.