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If you use the intersceptor function of the icarus lascannon with a dark reaper exchark, would it be possible for another dark reaper to shoot the cannon when the shooting phace comes?

   
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If you use the interceptor you wont be avaible to shoot the following turn,

But for example If you go first, on secound turn you can use your shooting at ground and when the other guy got his turn you can use the interceptor to take down his flyer/drop pod what ever comes from reserve.

But no.. it cannot been shot the following turn. Even if a new guy mann it.
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Interceptor rule allows you to fire that weapon's shot for its next Shooting phase before the target that just came on the board can do anything. Its not a free shot, thus its not ALWAYS a good idea to take the preemptive shot.

For instance, you can shoot at drop pods and the crew that came down with it, however he smartly deploys his guys out of sight so you can only fire at the pod. Unless that pod is posing a major threat (unlikely), dont intercept shoot it....use your fire on something worth firing at instead during your turn.

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 Vineheart01 wrote:
Interceptor rule allows you to fire that weapon's shot for its next Shooting phase before the target that just came on the board can do anything. Its not a free shot, thus its not ALWAYS a good idea to take the preemptive shot.

For instance, you can shoot at drop pods and the crew that came down with it, however he smartly deploys his guys out of sight so you can only fire at the pod. Unless that pod is posing a major threat (unlikely), dont intercept shoot it....use your fire on something worth firing at instead during your turn.


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Sth the Op didn't ask and i think it should be asked is;

What happens when exarch uses fast shot exarch power? The power states he adds 1 shot to his weapon.

So instead of shooting in the opponents turn and your turn, maybe the exarch can shoot twice in the opponents turn.

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It depends on whether you think 'his weapon' means 'the weapon he owns' or the 'weapon he uses'.

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 pizzaguardian wrote:
Sth the Op didn't ask and i think it should be asked is;

What happens when exarch uses fast shot exarch power? The power states he adds 1 shot to his weapon.

So instead of shooting in the opponents turn and your turn, maybe the exarch can shoot twice in the opponents turn.

I think that's how it would happen, you'd get two shots at whatever's coming in. You couldn't split up your shots between Intercerptor shots and normal ones in your turn.

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As long as you don't use interceptor to fire in your opponents turn you can ring the gun with models of different units and fire it once with each model from the different units. We house rules it to a single shot per phase though.

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The rules for gun emplacements say 1 model may fire it, not 1 model from every unit.

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Gravmyr wrote:
As long as you don't use interceptor to fire in your opponents turn you can ring the gun with models of different units and fire it once with each model from the different units. We house rules it to a single shot per phase though.


How? It says one model may fire, not every or all.


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 MandalorynOranj wrote:
 pizzaguardian wrote:
Sth the Op didn't ask and i think it should be asked is;

What happens when exarch uses fast shot exarch power? The power states he adds 1 shot to his weapon.

So instead of shooting in the opponents turn and your turn, maybe the exarch can shoot twice in the opponents turn.

I think that's how it would happen, you'd get two shots at whatever's coming in. You couldn't split up your shots between Intercerptor shots and normal ones in your turn.


As above, interceptor states 'if this rule is used the weapon cannot be fired in the next turn,, so yes it will be two shots or one while intercepting. You can of course fire another weapon if the model has one

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It doesn't qualify a time limit, therefor is it one model per unit per shooting phase,one model per shooting phase, one model per army, or one model per game? And if you choose the the last option, then all I have to do to make it useless to you is get into contact and fire it first then you never can as it is the one model that can fire it. The second option would make it so I can kill your model using it and it's done you can't fire it any more. The first is how I read it as it doesn't actually limit the number of times it can be fired just that one model can fire it. The second was what we assumed it should be.

Now that I go back and look at the weapon profile section though it does state, as an example, that the number of shots is how many it gets per shooting phase so it doesn't matter. So I have to retract my earlier statement.

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I am still confused:

When a model is using the lascannon to make interscept shots he passes on the models next shot and the laser cannon? The model can not shoot another weapon, and another squad can not shoot the lasecannon?

Next:

An dark reaper exhark with fast shot can shoot the lascannon twice on regular shots? And also twice on intersceptor shots?

   
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At the end of the enemy Movement
phase, a weapon with the Interceptor
special rule can be fired at any one unit
that has arrived from reserve within its
range and line of sight. If this rule is
used, the weapon cannot be fired in the
next turn, but the firing model can shoot
a different weapon if it has one.


Interceptor rule Via BRB.

Interceptor is a quality of a weapon. Therefore, when a model fires interceptor, he cannot fire the same weapon in the next shooting phase. However, he can fire another weapon as stated in the rules. It does not matter the shot count, he simply cannot fire the weapon so the DR could not shoot it at all in his next shooting phase.


Fast shot is a permanent effect (as is crack shot, but you must chose which to use). Therefore it could be used to intercept.

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The problem is the wording with Fast Shot refers to the his [the Exarch] weapon. Is the Gun Emplacement his weapon? HIWPI yes, for the purposes of the shot it is. Unfortunately I do not think it actually works RAW.

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Yes crack shot , fast shot would work, as the gun emplacement becomes his weapon when he uses it. The brb even specifies that any SRs that he "model" has transfers over. So Fast shot would make it a heavy 2 Icarus Lasscannon, or Heavy 5 Quan Gun. The "no shooting next turn" restriction is on the Gun Emplacement itself, not on the exarch, he can fire normally next turn.

Another awesome choice for Interceptor, a Storm raven bringing in a dreadnought and a unit of GK pallies. Crash and burn and you just took out 3 units with one shot in the ENEMY turn. Not to mention what 800? points that the opponent doesn't even get to use.
   
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overlordweasel wrote:
Yes crack shot , fast shot would work, as the gun emplacement becomes his weapon when he uses it. The brb even specifies that any SRs that he "model" has transfers over. So Fast shot would make it a heavy 2 Icarus Lasscannon, or Heavy 5 Quan Gun. The "no shooting next turn" restriction is on the Gun Emplacement itself, not on the exarch, he can fire normally next turn.

Another awesome choice for Interceptor, a Storm raven bringing in a dreadnought and a unit of GK pallies. Crash and burn and you just took out 3 units with one shot in the ENEMY turn. Not to mention what 800? points that the opponent doesn't even get to use.


Or, if you ARE a GK, a unit of Purgators can shoot it at anything, even something behind a wall. Not in the enemy phase, but still... it illustrates the point.

Not to mention that any psyker that can take divination can make it de facto twin-linked.

 
   
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But for the psyker to take divination they would have to be standing on the top of the battlement right? Because you cannot target anything inside?

   
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 Niiai wrote:
But for the psyker to take divination they would have to be standing on the top of the battlement right? Because you cannot target anything inside?

That is correct.

Personally I run a 25 point Inquisitor that doesn't do much but man the Icarus.

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As sneaky it is to team grey knights with my dark eldar I rather grab som "normal eldars".

I just hope a big mortar shell does not kill everything on top of the bastion because they do not get a coversave if the shell lands on top of the building does it?

And also, if I have a psykick power that lets me re-roll saves on the gun? It is more important to save that then to save the person manning it (unless it is exharks).

   
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 Niiai wrote:
As sneaky it is to team grey knights with my dark eldar I rather grab som "normal eldars".

I just hope a big mortar shell does not kill everything on top of the bastion because they do not get a coversave if the shell lands on top of the building does it?

And also, if I have a psykick power that lets me re-roll saves on the gun? It is more important to save that then to save the person manning it (unless it is exharks).

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