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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/01 20:35:54
Subject: VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So, here we are. I've finally purchased the most beautiful huge-based model, bar none: the Vessel of Judgment =)
Totally love both the model and the concept. Now I need some help to build a list around it.
First of all, I don't want to start collecting Menoth. I already have a main WM faction (Cryx). I simply want to play this model every now and then. So I would like to build just a force to play it with (eventually) very few more.
What I already own:
Vessel of Judgement (obviously)
the content of the 2p Battle Box (got it without even considering if I would use what's inside; the deal with these boxes is simply too good)
Vassal of Menoth (everyone says it's an auto-include, and it's dirty cheap)
So, what to get next next?
I've already have Kreoss, but will consider getting another caster. I especially like (concept and/or model wise) Reznik and Harbringer.
Other models I like are the Wrack, the Covenant, Order of the Wall, and every model with a strong "punishment-inflicting religious bastards" look/feeling.
Btw, feel free to ignore what I would like due to its look/fluff as WM is a game that I play mainly for the gameplay (over the pretty look of the models).
Battlecollege says I should field a Vassal Mechanick to repair it, but the VM ability says he can repair jacks and the VoJ is not...
I think I will also have to get a Choir, right?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/01 21:08:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/01 21:06:25
Subject: Re:VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have been playing a lot with these puppy recently and it's solid, solid solid. First off you don't really need a mechanic with it like most models it really dies once the opponent makes any kind of commitment to it and it doesn't do enough damage to suicide itself. Are there some edge cases where a single powerful ranged shot might kill it when it otherwise would have come up 2-4 damage short? Sure, but I'm not sure that case is common enough to be dedicated a point for menofixer if you wouldn't have brought one anyways. As to list composition. Battle Engines have special rules that let them be repaired like 'Jacks. Like i said though, it's kind of an edge case in my experience.
Anyway once you include the contents of the 2 player battle box, the VoJ, a vassal and a minimum choir you're sitting at 33/35 with a 6 WJP caster or 34 points with pKreoss. You can fill in those last 2 or 1 points with whatever you like.
pSeverius is kind of the go-to guy for weird hodge-podge lists like that, though Vindictus can also make the Cinerators shine. pKreoss is also solid but doesn't bring anything the list specifically wants beyond Defender's ward. I mean he has his feat but that's always awesome.
EDIT:
Vessel of Judgment tips:
1-)BOOST! No seriously, Boost. I don't care that you hit on 3s, Boost. It costs you 1hp to boost, there is no reason not to. Admonisher clipped landed on an ARM 21 model? Boost. Yeah it's not likely to do much but it may do something. It costs you no resources of consequence to boost on the VoJ don't give up the opportunity to do so.
2-)Doors of Judgment is awesome. You only get one per turn though, so wait for the right time. Sure it's neat to just get a revenge kill off the first thing they pop, but it's usually sub optimal. Does it look like they're going to go for scenario this turn? Let it play out. Nothing is more frustrating than fighting tooth and nail to clear a flag and then the last exemplar they kill goes and decapitates the model they were able to get in B2B with with the thing. Have key model you need to protect? If another model gets charged by the same unit and killed first go kill one of they guys they comitted to their other model. It's useful.
3-)f you holding back and mostly keeping the gun trained on the front lines you can often use the push miracle to bull doze thing off an objective or flag late game, set them on fire kill some with the guy and watch the rest burn without being able to retaliate.
4-)BOOST!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 09:29:22
Subject: VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thank you very much for reply. Please note that using the full content of the 2p Vattlebox is not mandatory. I got it because it's a great deal, but feel free to leave out what don't fit .
Chongara wrote:IBattle Engines have special rules that let them be repaired like 'Jacks.
Good to know. Are battle engine rules freely available somewhere, or I have to purchase Wrath?
Thanks again, and... I'll BOOST!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/02 09:37:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/05 10:59:43
Subject: VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Bane Lord Tartar Sauce
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They might have been in a no quarter. On the main PP boards in general discussion there'll be a stickied thread with the contents of all the No Quarters. Have a quick check there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/07 15:09:49
Subject: VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok, thanks. they're the same fot both Warmachine and Hordes, right? (while I suppose rules for Colossals and Gargantuans may differ a little).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/07 15:43:40
Subject: VoJ 25-35ish army list
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gabbi wrote:Ok, thanks. they're the same fot both Warmachine and Hordes, right? (while I suppose rules for Colossals and Gargantuans may differ a little).
Mostly. I know the Legion Battle Engine is a Living Model. Colossals use largely the same rules as Battle Engines except they can't do any out of activation movements, can't be placed and can always shoot when engaged. Also they're Warjacks/Warbeasts all the noise that invovles.
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