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Is this still in effect per Blood Angels codex in 6th or was it changed? If there is a post about this i appologize as i did not find it. my brother and i were discussing the other night.

Many thanks in advance .

You can, but you shouldn't...

Find it to risky.

Thanks Guys

Well i heard it was risky, but just wast not sure if it was allowed. I had been thinking that with 6th Edition maybe it was a little better option as deep strike has from what i have heard not as dangerous. Given that a land raider and such has a big area that it can hit objects and cause mishap table and I am aware of that. What i find interesting is if lets say you deepstrike crusader/redeemer down and it was successful you could have instant pucker factor, disembark troops shoot and assault being its an assault vehicle. You cant assault from drop pods... but to deep strike a assault vehicle even being risky could be fun... if i am correct on my understanding. Might be entertaining to do several land raiders this way. However as it is not a dedicated deep strike i guess they would come in random? I am mainly posting this idea for discussion tactics wise in the risky sense...


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Oh and i am asking cause i have a list/army of 4 land raiders in 2000 point force that this could be fun with as option. Course my raiders are equiped with tactical marines (not best for assault) however, i do not like to play the game like everyone else does.. i like to be odd on my tactics via my name . Example: everyone does not like vehicles... fine i will run them because everyone probably getting geared up to be balanced and or to fight infantry... so you face me and bam land raider spam as an example... yeah might suck but might suck really bad for other guy and I play to have fun .

You can't assault the turn you deep strike, even out of an assault vehicle.

Sometimes I find its worth it to take a risk or 4. Its pretty awesome when you put something where it doesn't belong, esp something big and stupid.

 g0atsticks wrote:
You can't assault the turn you deep strike, even out of an assault vehicle.

Sometimes I find its worth it to take a risk or 4. Its pretty awesome when you put something where it doesn't belong, esp something big and stupid.

Ok that is good to know . I guess not as good as idea as i had thought, assault only in normal conditions. So yeah that put a big worthless in my idea lol.

Yeah i think the same. I normally would not do things that silly, but you know its fun especially with people i play with that are at times donkeycaves... and then getting their reaction cause 4 land raiders are all over him and he has nothing to deal with them especially that close lol. Course if the all mishap.. well... it was worth seeing if the big stupid worked thru some wierd Captain Kirk luck

if you field some ravens you can outfit them with locator beacons to avoid scatter.
It paints them with a big bulls eye but with the new flyers rules it might be easier to do than in 5 ed.
Just be careful with interceptor guns,might also need some reserve control since the beacon must be on the table at the beginning of the turn to work and since the earlier is turn two and everthing comes in on turn 2 on a 3+ you can't be sure it will come out in the right order.
You could put some on pods to have a few beacon operational on turn two tough but any opponent worth is salt will target them and he will always have at least 1 shooting phase to do so.
That being said it is still a bad idea but it might still be fun...

There is never any point I can see to DSing any flier, why would you take the risk when you can simply fly nearly anywhere on the board when you come on anyway?

As for DSing a LR? Yes it's high risk, and as you count as having moved cruising speed, you can't disembark, let alone assault, plus you're snap firing every weapon other than what you choose to POTMS.

But, as others have said, having a LR turn up in their face can cause your opponent all sorts of problems. Not to mention how the prospect of a LR full of TH Terminators will influence how they play before they arrive.

 azreal13 wrote:
There is never any point I can see to DSing any flier, why would you take the risk when you can simply fly nearly anywhere on the board when you come on anyway?

You'd do it to get the first shot in on something. While it's true you can end up practically anywhere when you come on from reserve, you don't have nearly as much flexibility with facing for some positions. If you've flown your flyer halfway across the table pointing at my deployment zone, deepstriking my flyer behind yours facing it's rear could be advantageous. Especially if that flyer is your only practical AA.

I've never had even the slightest interest in playing BA, from the day they were first ever released.

Until this thread.

Yes, it may be silly, inefficient, and possibly tactically disastrous.

I'd still love to do it, and would love to hear how it works out when you do it!

Cheers,

V

Chrysis wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
There is never any point I can see to DSing any flier, why would you take the risk when you can simply fly nearly anywhere on the board when you come on anyway?

You'd do it to get the first shot in on something. While it's true you can end up practically anywhere when you come on from reserve, you don't have nearly as much flexibility with facing for some positions. If you've flown your flyer halfway across the table pointing at my deployment zone, deepstriking my flyer behind yours facing it's rear could be advantageous. Especially if that flyer is your only practical AA.

Storm Raven is 12AV all around, we like it from behind best.

Yeah, which makes the Storm Raven ideal for deep-striking like that. Drop behind a Vendetta and pop it before it can pop you.

Verthane wrote:
I've never had even the slightest interest in playing BA, from the day they were first ever released.

Until this thread.

Yes, it may be silly, inefficient, and possibly tactically disastrous.

I'd still love to do it, and would love to hear how it works out when you do it!

Cheers,

V

Right on . I ended up getting most of my Blood Angel 2nd Company from my brother for free and when i got the codex i liked some of the wierd things you could try for fun . I will let you know here in couple weeks how it goes when i try it .

On side note... why not just lets say get your troops selection done as they get land raiders as regular transports... and just not load them in the land raider... they foot slog to objectives. Deep strike their transport in the enemies face (crusader or redeemer (flame templates not matter for snap fire? If the cant fire then that might suck i am still trying to learn some of the rules lol. But either way "Bam" here is heavy armor in your face... but yeah defeats transport ability of it... but would change your opponents tactics in a hurry. Also could deep strike some terminators to support it.

Storm Ravens... I think it might be intersting to if you had 2nd turn to deepstrike behind a enemy flier lol... sort of like a dog fighting technique of sorts... especially if its zooming and has rear armor exposed... but i think someone said you snapfire everything so risky and might get a second turn to shoot regular at it... but, if you deep strike the raven do you count as zoom or whatever to get save or skyfire only to hit you or do you count as regular skimmer move? Also next round you can go to zoom? If you had cargo like a dreadnaught etc you have to wait a round to deploy it or you can deepstrike and drop it off but not assault and then zoom after enemy flier rear arc?

I don't see any reason why you couldnt' deep strike these to some effect by using beacons from drop pods.