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Cannock

Can a chariot i.e Catacomb Command Barge consolidate after winning combat? After all the rider can fight and charge.

Can the Doom Scythe fire behind it? I thought the weapon would need LOS. Rules say nominate a point on the battlefield.

Thanks

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No, because a vehicle does not consolidate unless it is a walker.

Yes it can, however as per Out of Sight on page 16 it cannot allocate any wounds to models outside of its 45 degree arc of fire, as defined due to it being hull and not a turret mount
   
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@mercer Note however that the restriction of "out of sight" is only for wounds and not damage results on vehicles. So you can damage vehicles anywhere within range.
   
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Cannock

so the doom could fly over some vehicles and then laser burn with the line coming from behind the doom, is that right?

Wasn't sure about the chariot. I know it's a vehicle, but it can assault like a walker. It's an odd one.

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Maryland

A follow up question if you don't mind. If am in CC with a chariot and I kill the chariot, not the driver, is the driver still locked into combat at the end? Do we continue the combat next round?
   
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BRB FAQ, from memory. No, they are not locked
   
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Ailideon wrote:
A follow up question if you don't mind. If am in CC with a chariot and I kill the chariot, not the driver, is the driver still locked into combat at the end? Do we continue the combat next round?


No, he's not, he was never locked in combat in the first place. It is handled the same as disembarking from a wrecked/exploded vehicle.


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 mercer wrote:
Can a chariot i.e Catacomb Command Barge consolidate after winning combat? After all the rider can fight and charge.

Can the Doom Scythe fire behind it? I thought the weapon would need LOS. Rules say nominate a point on the battlefield.

Thanks


Just a side note here, the rider of a chariot never "charges" the enemy. Only the chariot does. This means the rider gains no benefit to Rage, bonus attacks for assaulting, furious charge, etc...

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Cannock

does it state that in the FAQ?

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 mercer wrote:
does it state that in the FAQ?


Yes, it's in the necron one but it [should] apply to all chariots -

Q: Does a Necron Overlord on a Catacomb Command Barge benefit
from Furious Charge on a Sweep Attack? In addition, are Sweep
Attacks close combat attacks? (p52)
A: No to both questions.

   
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That's a Sweep Attack which is done in the movement phase and doesn't apply to an assault.

Aycee
   
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 mercer wrote:
does it state that in the FAQ?

No, it says that on page 82 in the BRB when it describes the Chariot assaulting and the rider able to swing separately.
The rider never assaults meaning it does not benefit from things that trigger from an assault.
... ...

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 mercer wrote:
does it state that in the FAQ?

When it specifies on page 82 that the Chariot is what declares the charge, it doesnt need to be FAQ'd.

Nothing allows the model embarked to declare a charge, so it isnt the object charging. It is literally just along for the ride.
   
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Aycee71 wrote:
That's a Sweep Attack which is done in the movement phase and doesn't apply to an assault.

Aycee


Hm...I need my morning coffee.
   
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So no benefit from taking a Warscythe or MSS ?

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 Dozer Blades wrote:
So no benefit from taking a Warscythe or MSS ?


It benefits from both...but the a Lord in a Chariot can't be involved in challenges.
   
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It is starting to get murky.

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 Dozer Blades wrote:
So no benefit from taking a Warscythe or MSS ?
]Well, yes, when he makes his attacjs. Remember that line saying being in BtB with the chariot means you are in btb with the rider?
   
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