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I sometimes uae a vanilla librarian with my main force, but how much use is one with an assault squad?

I'm taking an allied BA ASM squad with a JP lib, and maybe a Chaplain.
What are the best powers to use with them?
The model I'll be using has a force axe and plasma pistol, but the pistol will be magnetised.

Divination and if your taking a asm squad take a san. priest.

Divination's Prescience is useful - but not as useful with Assault Marines as it is with other units. Instead I would opt for Unleash Rage (for a similar, if shorter-lasting effect than Prescience) and Might of Heroes for extra Attacks, for either the Librarian or the Sergeant.

I'd consider Shield and Unleash Rage because then you can cast each power every turn without having to resort to an epistolary upgrade.

The 4++ save from divination is one of the best powers in the game. And the one that gives counterattack and full BS on overwatch.

Martel732 wrote:
The 4++ save from divination is one of the best powers in the game. And the one that gives counterattack and full BS on overwatch.

This is the problem... not all of the powers are useful for an Assault squad in particular, which is what was asked for. If you're making use of counterattack or overwatch from jump packers, you're doing it wrong. And the powers that are no good here makes it not worth rolling for the useful ones.

 Super Ready wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
The 4++ save from divination is one of the best powers in the game. And the one that gives counterattack and full BS on overwatch.

This is the problem... not all of the powers are useful for an Assault squad in particular, which is what was asked for. If you're making use of counterattack or overwatch from jump packers, you're doing it wrong. And the powers that are no good here makes it not worth rolling for the useful ones.

I respectfully disagree, prescience is very very good for assault marines, even more so when backed up with a sang priest, you get your boys into position, fire bolt pistols and flamer/metla at them rerolling misses, charge them, roll to hit (usually on 4's) re rolling misses then roll to wound with furious charge (so usually 3's, against eldar guard etc 2's!). Opponents assault phase, if the squad that was charged survives, you are still re rolling misses, if they dont and you get charged you overwatch and re roll misses then re roll misses again in the opponents assault phase.

 Super Ready wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
The 4++ save from divination is one of the best powers in the game. And the one that gives counterattack and full BS on overwatch.

This is the problem... not all of the powers are useful for an Assault squad in particular, which is what was asked for. If you're making use of counterattack or overwatch from jump packers, you're doing it wrong. And the powers that are no good here makes it not worth rolling for the useful ones.

My ASM get assaulted all the time, particularly after mopping up on squad. I have never regretted rolling divination and attaching said librarian to an ASM.

Prescience is just good, doesn't matter the unit or codex. To some, it makes Divination a no brainer. You don't need your Chaplain if you go Div...Prescience is way better.

I've enjoyed using Div on my Libby, but overall I agree with Andilus. I get more utility being able to actually use both of my codex powers as opposed to just 1 with Div sans Epistolary. Having Shield allows me to deploy much more aggressively especially with Night Fighting.

But shield of sanguinius does nothing in HTH combat. Nor does it do anything against template weapons. Plus, if you roll up the 6th divination power, you can practically pick the turn the Stormraven(s) show up.

Martel732 wrote:
But shield of sanguinius does nothing in HTH combat. Nor does it do anything against template weapons. Plus, if you roll up the 6th divination power, you can practically pick the turn the Stormraven(s) show up.

I'm not sure what the point is...everything has a downside. Prescience does nothing against Plasma or Dark Lances while you get into assault range. The 6th Divination power does nothing if I have no reserves. You see what I did there?

It's all preference. Divination is a fantastic table since its Primaris guarantees one awesome spell.

I think that the divination spells other than the guaranteed one can be much more game changing than any codex powers. The utility from the 4++ save power is incredible. It lets an ASM squad beat all kinds of squads it couldn't before. And survive fire it couldn't survive before.

I suppose my current play style makes a difference; I don't usually advance until after 2-3 turns of shooting. I'm not running a jumper list normally.

It looks like it's best to stick with the spell cards then.
I'll try the others mentioned though.
Having a list of less useful powers makes it easier though.

Thanks all.

I ally in BA to my IG army with the Librarian (Both JP and dreadnought variety) and a flamer assault squad. I have been running Fear the Darkness and Blood Lance on the JP for some offensive power goodness. If you need some offensive punch, this has worked wonders for me.

I can also attest to the effectiveness of divination. Re-rolls to hit is awesome.