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Hey guys I'm getting back into eldar, I know there's a new release for em some point this year but I want a solid list that I can then adapt when the new book comes out

So am looking for just oppinions and critique. It's just a list ill be using in my local games workshop so no Death Stars or über units just want a solid list to get back into the army.

Cheers,

Here's my proposed list. I have some of the models already:

Hq: Eldrad with 3 warlocks (conceal, destructor and embolden) who will join a Dire Avenget unit.

Hq: Avatar of Khaine

Troop: 10 dire avengers with exarch with dual catapults and blade storm and a wave serpent for objective stealing.

Troop: 10 dire avengers (eldrads squad) with exarch with dual catapults and blade storm to sit on my own objective.

Elite: 6 fire dragons In a wave serpent

Heavy support: 2 x Fire Prisms
Heavy support: 2 x war walkers with scatter lasers

Fortification: Aegis Defense Line with Quad gun

Thoughts?

You have to take a minimum of 3 Warlocks with Eldrad. These Warlocks can not join other units. If you can, add the Quadgun to the Defense line. And spirit stones on the Fire Prisms are unnecessary.

Ah right ok will think of something else regards the warlocks then. Sorry will edit in the fire prisms do actually have spirit stones in the list. Cheers


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Have edited the list after your comment. Can't quite squeeze the quad gun in unless I drop one of the war walkers.


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Aha no I can get it in, drop the spirit stones and one eldar missile launcher and I can get it in.

I would probably just drop the Warlocks all together and add more troops. You still can't add the 3 + Eldrad to anything.

The Avatar seems a bit out of place here. Usually his best use is in a footdar list where he leads the spearhead of troops granting the 12" fearless bubble and benefiting from Fortune spam. With the new FAQ requiring farseers to be outside vehicles to cast you can't mech it up and make him survivable.

*IF* you wanted to go full mech; a pathfinder unit to hold the home OBJ and for the Quad would be better in the long run than the 10 avengers. At least they will have range. You can drop a guide/fortune seer (basic seer) back here to use to quad and to guide the war walkers holding your line.

Eldar are specialised. Very specialised. You kinda have to pick one of the strategies and go for it. Basically you've got a few options - full mech (which has its drawbacks at the moment), full foot, wraithwall (10 wraithguard as a seer bunker and nearly unkillable troops choice, add wraithseer for full effect), or jetbike spam.

Most games will be 3-5 OBJ, so only 2 scoring units can really hurt. 3 man GJB squads can sit in reserve till the last minute and turbo boost onto an OBJ (gaining a 4+ cover save in the process). Having the 10 DA in a serpent to nab an OBJ is ok; but Avengers are average at best. I personally get more mileage out of my 12-14 man guardian squads than DA's; especially for return on investment.

One of the biggest things about Eldar what ever road you take is the emphasis on force multiplication. Guide and Doom are force multipliers. Beef up your units to take advantage of this:
War walkers (when running them) should be 3 strong. Gives you 2 extra hull points before the unit goes down AND gives you potentially 8 more shots. A farseers guide is better points spent guiding 24 S6 shots than guiding 16 S6 shots.
Blade storm is cool, but you won't be able to overwatch or shoot the next turn. Kinda hurts there.
I find prisms to be a bit meh. Some people swear by them; but I find for 10 points more that a Warp Hunter has a prism beat in everything except range.

Have a look around on the army list section of dakka; theres a few previous eldar lists for each of the above mentioned play styles - Mech, Wraith, Foot, Bike. Mech is ultimately the weakest of the 4. Personally, I run a fluffy (but proven to be quite scary) Wraith list (check out my battle reports for how it's been going recently). T3 on 90% of your units kicks you in the teeth; so bear that in mind.

If you want to run mech; that's about all the advice I can give as Mech is not my preference or strong suit. I wish you well though

hey so your list seems pretty solid. the only thing i would change would be to drop the dire avengers and take rangers. I just find that dire avengers die way to easy. but rangers behind and aeigis defence line.... really hard to kill. i run a list similiar to yours:

hq
eldrad
avatar

Elite:
5 firedragons with a waveserpent, TL shuiken cannons
5 firedragons with a waveserpent, TL shuiken cannons
5 striking scorpians

troop:
5 rangers, pathfinders
5 rangers, pathfinders

heavy support:
2 warwalkers, 2 EML, 2 scatter lasers
wraithlord, wraithblade, EML

Fortifacations:
aeiis defence line, Aicuras lascannon.

I dont have my list in front of me, but im pretty sure thats whats in it. if it doesnt go all the way to 1500, add some more upgrades.

Hey guys cheers for the advice have taken it on board and with some new models I've been gifted today by a very generous friend I've now got quite a bit to play with so am gonna make up a list and work something out and ill post it here.

ok so after looking through the stuff my friend gave me! (i know the right people, he was just clearing his garage and found most of this and just wanted it shifted) i've come up with this, the idea is its quick but with a good solid bone to hold my own objectives.

Hq: Eldrad
Hq: Autarch with Jetbike and fusion gun

Troop: 4 eldar jet bikes
Troop: 4 eldar jet bikes (Autarch joins one of the squads)
am contemplating wether to have the two squads of 4 or one squad of 8, thoughts?

Troop: 5 pathfinders
Troop: 10 dire avengers with exarch with dual catapults and blade storm they also have a wave serpent with two shuriken cannons should they need to shoot off and grab an objective

elite: 5 fire dragons with wave serpent with elder missile launcher

Fast attack: night wing fighter
Fast attack: 5 swooping hawks with exarch with sky leap

Heavy support: Fire Prism
Heavy support: Falcon with shuriken cannon

so thoughts and critiques on this new list would be appreciated cheers guys.