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2013/02/11 13:18:42
Subject: Double force org question
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Suppose a CSM army has two primary detachments - the first one has a MoN Chaos Lord. Does he make Plague Marines count as a troop choice in the second detachment?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/11 13:19:11
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2013/02/11 14:05:49
Subject: Double force org question
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Due to the wording (In a Primary Detachment...) it only affects the primary detachment he is part of.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/02/11 16:12:09
Subject: Double force org question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is that stated in the codex or brb? I don't have my books with me.
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2013/02/11 16:29:46
Subject: Double force org question
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Codex, part of the Lords rule that allows them to be taken as troops.
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2013/02/11 16:32:00
Subject: Double force org question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Codex. The older 'dexes say "an army that includes X..." so it would affect both detachments.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/02/11 16:38:03
Subject: Re:Double force org question
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The second force org is also a second primary detachment. Its still a primary so they still confer the special rules for elite to troop conversion.
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 I need to return some video tapes. 
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2013/02/11 16:45:47
Subject: Re:Double force org question
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 Goat wrote:The second force org is also a second primary detachment. Its still a primary so they still confer the special rules for elite to troop conversion.
No, you'll need to read the whole rule.
It's quite clear, doesn't effect the second detachment.
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2013/02/11 18:26:05
Subject: Double force org question
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What I really like is what this rule does for allies. Kinda interesting.
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2013/02/11 19:44:18
Subject: Double force org question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It doesn't do anything for them.
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2013/02/11 19:50:26
Subject: Re:Double force org question
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Goat wrote:The second force org is also a second primary detachment. Its still a primary so they still confer the special rules for elite to troop conversion.
The rule applies to a primary detachment that has a Chaos Lord in it. So the second detachment won't benefit.
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2013/02/12 00:35:51
Subject: Double force org question
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That's his point. The newer codices have specifically phrased their force org-altering abilities so that they're restricted in use when you're trying to combine them with Allies. It's a good example of GW doing something smart and staying cautious in balancing Allies and not making them obligatory and a no-brainer.
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