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Hey dakka, was testing out a list my friend made for fun just to see how well it would work and holy crap did it work. I had a very makeshift list using things i just saw that he had. it was close enough to 2k, we ended up proxying some stuff

here's my list:

Chaos Lord w/ Sigil of Corruption, plasma pistol, power sword
Chaos sorcerer lvl 3, sigil of Corruption, spell familiar (pyro powers)
6X chosen (from DV)
Helbrute
5X terminators (DV)
4X10 Khorne Chaos MArines
Land Raider
Rhino

there were various upgrades here and there, 1x plasma in each troop

I don't remember exactly what he had just bits and pieces

strike squad? teleport things on their backs
some warlord guy that gets to deepstrike turn 1 without scatter
a necron lord with a cryptek
two dreads with twin linked assault cannons
two squads of henchmen and psykers which cast the large blast and with 3 in each squad it became str6 ap3
two techmarines with conversion beamers
servitors with a monkey or something
ADL w/ quad
some necron warriors

he let me deploy first, and stole the initiative with a 4+ rerollable, started the game by 1 shotting my LR with a conversion beam, tabled after his third turn. it was beautiful.

he jumped his tele-guys forward with flamers and his warlord deepstruck behind my lower squad , basically wiping them out, destroyed rhino with assault cannons, squads decimated by st6 ap3 blasts, i'd have to add it all up but i think he took out over 1000 points from one shooting phase

How'd he have a rerollable 4+ to sieze?

I think it was Coteaz? I don't remember, I'm a rather new player and he had like 500 points in HQ's and he rolled a 5 to start so...yeah

Also sorry for sideways pictures, stupid phone...

Could coteaz and storm lord give you a re rollable 4+ to seize?

yes

Huh, interesting, I would have thought they needed to be battle brothers to gain benefits from the allied army.

Upon checking the FAQ, Imotekh must be the Warlord, I'll see if Coteaz has the same caveat...

Nope, can't find one. Interesting

Hard to tell from the pics and report but he appeared to deep strike Mordrak with a 10 man strike squad. Mordrak isn't an independent character so can't join any squad other than a ghost knight retinue. Plus the GK flamers/incinerators are ap4 so you should get your 3 up saves...Rematch!

also. If you do rematch the guy. try and get more terrain as thats a mad shooty army and it doesnt look liek you had anything to hide behind.

Apart the rules applications and eventually also the list compositions don't be worried about a tabling or two in the beginning.

However, your deployment was really really horrible.

Having footslogging units isn't a problem but you need to field them logically. The way you fielded them looks really like a showcase deployment good to take pictures, not a good way to dodge a turn of enemy fire.

Keeping the models in 2" coherency field them in a straight line, or at least space them widely, at the edge of the necessary 2".

Nowadays a lot of list (if not all) have the tools to take care of footslogging units (template weapons, barrage blasts of large blasts, long ranged pie plates, etc). Keeping your models spaced you'll greatly reduce the effectiveness of these weapons.

I will, however, advice you to begin with a lower pts series of games. Stay around 1000/1500 for a while before trying to compete at 2000.

Your friend, if reasonable, will certainly accept to play at these pts levels allowing you to learn pro and cons of your army and the basic tactics. If he's looking at rookie sparring partners easy to get tabled well.. maybe he isn't the right player to begin with.

Consider that the actual standard for competitive tournaments is 1750.. start at lower levels is my advice.

Mordrak can indeed Deep Strike turn 1 without scatter. It can be devastating if used properly, but your friend appears to have misunderstood the rules. Mordrak is not an IC, meaning he can't leave and join units as he sees fit. He can either be fielded alone, or with a retinue of Ghost Knights as per his rules. He can never under any circumstances be part of another squad. Other IC's such as Draigo or a Librarian can join his squad and Deep Strike with him though, provided they are wearing Terminator Armour.

This was my 3rd game ever and I appreciate your suggestions but this was just a friendly game because we wanted to see how well the list would work

I'd have to ask him about the guys with Mordrak he might have proxied them, it's possible mistakes were made, he's fairly new too