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I have a small batch of minis I primed with GW's Chaos Black spray, and they cured bad because it was too humid that day.

I've had them in a tub of Super Clean (undiluted) for 48 hours and not a speck of that paint comes off when I take a toothbrush or toothpick to it. Just leave them in longer or is there a trick to this? Now that I've rinsed them if I put them back in is it like throwing them in for the first time or do they still have 48 hours of "progress" on em?

I know this is a common topic, but all the threads I found (except one unresolved one) were regarding stripping paint jobs, not the primer, off of plastics.
   
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nope...nor any of the Army painter colored primers either. They adhere too well to the plastic. EVERYTHING else though can come off but the primer will stay.



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Simple Green worked for me.

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I will hold up my Dawn Power Dissolver banner once again as I have stripped both Army Painter Wolf Grey and GW Chaos Black with it. It gets the paint off just fine but those paints do stain the plastic but I've had no issues painting over them. You can strip Finecast with it too but you just can't leave it in there for more than a day.

   
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 nectarprime wrote:
Simple Green worked for me.


Heh, sounds like a mantra in this community. I thought Super Clean would be more powerful than Simple Green, but hey I'll try it.

If it does work, I'll be chanting that mantra too...


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 voxplayer wrote:
I will hold up my Dawn Power Dissolver banner once again as I have stripped both Army Painter Wolf Grey and GW Chaos Black with it. It gets the paint off just fine but those paints do stain the plastic but I've had no issues painting over them. You can strip Finecast with it too but you just can't leave it in there for more than a day.


Thanks for the tip.

Perhaps I'll get 3 tubs of minis going. 1 continuing with the Super Clean, 1 with Simple Green, and 1 with the Dawn. May the best chem win! (I sure hope one of them wins.)

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I used Dettol to strip some Blood Angels a while back that were primed in Skull White, no issues there.

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LA Awesome general purpose ..from the dollar tree or dollar general store ( its $1 for a quart and 3 bucks a gallon) non-toxic and it strips paint and loosens superglue over night ( use straight immerse the model in it) it will not hurt plastic, metal, resin or green stuff just loosens the paint and primer so you can remove it with a cheap soft toothbrush ...(I keep mine in a cheap resealable ziplock container and strain it occasionally (to get rid of paint clumps in the bottom) and replace when it starts to appear to not work ..(about 100 minis stripped with 8 oz's of the stuff)


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morfydd wrote:
LA Awesome general purpose ..from the dollar tree or dollar general store ( its $1 for a quart and 3 bucks a gallon) non-toxic and it strips paint and loosens superglue over night ( use straight immerse the model in it) it will not hurt plastic, metal, resin or green stuff just loosens the paint and primer so you can remove it with a cheap soft toothbrush ...(I keep mine in a cheap resealable ziplock container and strain it occasionally (to get rid of paint clumps in the bottom) and replace when it starts to appear to not work ..(about 100 minis stripped with 8 oz's of the stuff)


I would have to disagree with this product not messing up green stuff, green stuff turns soft and will not hold up to it. I've gotten a few models off of ebay and screwed up conversions stripping them. Other then that I love LA's

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Biostrip 40 I think it is from Biostrip in the UK is unbelieveable. It has literally stripped everything we throw at it and also rarely affects any adhesives on the model.

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I've had some minis in LA Totally Awesome, Super Clean, and Simple Green for the past couple days. I'm scrubbing them with my toothbrush but nothing's coming off. I haven't given up yet.

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Keep in mind that proper enamel primers will "stain" the plastic - depending on how it is applied, the staining can actually look like there is still paint on the model.

When the various solvents in the paint interact with the surface of the plastic - it dissolves it slightly. The pigments in the paint can migrate from the paint layer into the plastic below it, and when the solvents outgas - the pigments become embedded into the plastic itself.

When you strip the miniature, you will get off all the acrylics and what not without any problem using pretty much anything (including water and a toothbrush if you like). Once you get to the primer layer though - the primer will come off but the stain remains. If you look really close, you can actually see the difference between any remaining primer and the stained plastic...even though the color might be the same (or close to it).
   
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I used Dettol as well. there was still a little bit of black base coat on there, but it was easy enough to prime it in white afterwards.

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I would also mention, since I recently had to strip some BLOODY AWFUL gw white off some dark eldar, that using a cheap aa battery operated toothbrush (soft bristles) on them twice a day helped a great deal.




 
   
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Added dawn power dissolver and easy-off oven cleaner to the battery of testing.

Got 5 tubs with chems and minis in them.
   
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Easy Off should be done now...

Highly reactive chemicals like that do not normally benefit from prolonged soaks like some of the kinder, gentler chemicals do.

Just a point of reference for you which you can compare your results to:

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/guestarticles/removingpaint3.htm
   
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 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Easy Off should be done now...

Highly reactive chemicals like that do not normally benefit from prolonged soaks like some of the kinder, gentler chemicals do.

Just a point of reference for you which you can compare your results to:

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/guestarticles/removingpaint3.htm


Heh. Here's the mini after 4 hours fully submerged in Easy Off and given a good scrub.



It seems like this paint is untouchable.

I'll just spray it on next time.


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UPDATE: Appear to be making some progress with the Dawn Power Dissolve. I opened it up (it's been in there about 5 hours) and saw some black specks in the solution. Scrubbed it with a brush and when I went to dry it with a towel I noticed black goop was coming off it. The mini is looking grayer and more "thinned out" in certain places. Hurray, more than I can say for the Super Clean/LA/Simple Green anyways.

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6th chemical in testing, Isopropyl Alcohol.
   
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Dawn Power Dissolver to the rescue. Dawn company should hire me as much as I pimp that stuff.

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 voxplayer wrote:
Dawn Power Dissolver to the rescue. Dawn company should hire me as much as I pimp that stuff.


Well I can't say that I'm satisfied yet but it IS the only chemical of the 5 that appears to be doing anything. It turns the paint into goop that you can pull off with a paper towel, my brushing might be helping too but it's hard to tell because the model gets all foamy and I'm afraid to rinse it off with water because that might harden the paint again.

There's still plenty of paint left on the models though, I'm hoping the power dissolve might break down the paint and then perhaps the isopropyl will actually get that crap off? Remains to be seen.
   
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DrGamut wrote:
6th chemical in testing, Isopropyl Alcohol.


Better be +91% Isopropyl Alcohol. Otherwise you are wasting your time

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 Adam LongWalker wrote:
DrGamut wrote:
6th chemical in testing, Isopropyl Alcohol.


Better be +91% Isopropyl Alcohol. Otherwise you are wasting your time


99%. It seems to be plucking all that gooey paint the Dawn Power Dissolve broke down off almost immediately on contact in a much more efficient manner than me patting it repeatedly with a paper towel. However I don't know if it continues to have any effect beyond that. Of two models that spent the better part of a day in Dawn Power Dissolve, one went into a jar of Super Clean and one went into a jar of IPA. The IPA jar has a healthy amount of black particles floating around and the model is looking very gray (although a dark gray). The Super Clean model does not yet appear as influenced.
   
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 voxplayer wrote:
Dawn Power Dissolver to the rescue. Dawn company should hire me as much as I pimp that stuff.


I use this exclusively now for stripping paint. Works great consistently. Much much better than Simple Green and less toxic than the other powerful strippers.
   
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SavageRobby wrote:
 voxplayer wrote:
Dawn Power Dissolver to the rescue. Dawn company should hire me as much as I pimp that stuff.


I use this exclusively now for stripping paint. Works great consistently. Much much better than Simple Green and less toxic than the other powerful strippers.


How long do you leave them in there? What do you do with them when you pull them out? Are you using it just to get acrylics off or have you also used it for primer?

It is working, but slowly, and turning the paint into goo rather than actually taking it off is a little difficult to work with. The Isopropyl seems to be helping though.

   
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I spray it on and leave it for an hour or two. Then I take a toothbrush to it. Paint comes off in gobs just from the spray. Primer, especially the black, takes a bit of elbow grease and as mentioned up thread, leaves a permanent stain on the model that looks like the plastic was inked, but that gets hidden by the next primer applied.
   
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I've always soaked my models in Power Dissolver. I tend to leave them in for a few days just because I forget about them but when I was stripping my terrible aqcuired Skaven army I would only leave them in for 8 hours or so. Run some water and get a tooth brush and I was good to go. Here is a list of things I have removed with this product:
Army Painter Quick Shade
GW Chaos Black
Krylon Fusion White
Army Painter Wolf Gray
Krylon Fusion Black (model stains a bit)
Every model painting acrylic I've found
Testors Enamels
A vast variety of sealers

This has been done on Plasitc, Resin and Metal models. I normally buy icky looking armies, strip them, repaint them and then flip them. DPD has been able to help me do this.

   
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I honest leave my minis in Dettol solution for about 12-24 hours at least....

4 hours would not do any good for 'dipping' solutions I think.

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does anyone know if dawn power dissolver is available in canada ?
or do us poor canucks have another alternative ?

already looked on walmart.ca and the search engine dont find anything

edit . why do i have a usa flag lol

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I like this crap called Purple Power. Find it at your local Dollar General. Puts LA's Totally Awesome to shame, as well as Simple Green.

It's freakin' strong. Smells alright (not the best). Not great for your skin, so either wear gloves or moisturize afterwards. Don't let it dry on anything, because you'll have to use sandpaper to remove it. I use Purple Power as my stripper anymore (does a cute dance for me )
Hehe, see what I did there?! Yeah?! lol...

Not sure how safe it is on GS or miliput tho, so take caution.

I'll have to try out Dawn's Power Dissolver. Never heard of it for stripping before, so if it's more efficient, I'm game.

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For posterity, I finally achieved my desired result by leaving the figures in some Super Clean (same active chemical as Purple Power) for a solid week undisturbed. The 24-48 hour testing and chemical switching I did initially were ineffective, but after 7 days in the Super Clean 90% of the primer washed off just by placing the figure under a running faucet, scrubbed it with a $3 battery toothbrush and all that's left is some black primer stains. I'm very satisfied.

However, I am now interested in performing a more scientific test on strippers...since I've obtained nearly a dozen candidate chemicals in this quest already. Where can I get some test tubes?
   
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http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/search.aspx?search=test%20tubes&page=1

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