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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:03:43
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hey guys so I posted a thread asking wether I should do a Eldar Army or a GK one. As I am leaning more towards the Eldar I decided to come up with a list for them. I am planning on doing my own craft world so I wont be taking Eldrad (1 hes from craftworld ulthwe 2 hes classed as cheese lol) so heres the list.
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Autarch Tyrion 90 points
Mandiblasters Power Weapon
Troops
10x Guardians with Scatter Laser 95 points
5x Dire Avengers 60 points
Wave Serpant with Scatter Laser(Dedicated Transport for the Avengers who go in it with the Autarch) 115 points
Heavy Support
Warwarlker with 2 scatter lasers 60 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 22:12:46
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Executing Exarch
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Pretty decent start. An autarch is not doing much here unless you plan on putting the war walkers in reserves. If so, grab a fusion blaster over mandiblasters so you have some extra anti armor. Not to say heavy armor is common in small games, but it happens.
A farseer with a cheap power(swap for a book power) and runes of warding would cost the same, but be a bit more beneficial. Using prescience on the walkers can make them very deadly. A singing spear on the seer also gives you an extra AT weapon.
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The most important rule of 40K-Page XVII of the 6th edition rulebook, the figure at the top right of the page. "Shake hands with your opponent and thank them for a good battle and fun experience." Then go out for a beer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 23:31:51
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I completely agree about the autarch, his value is realized when you have multiple units in reserve, and usually at larger point games. Farseers set Eldar apart from other armies, an autarch is really just a wimpy SM captain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 05:24:46
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I went with the Autarch mainly cause i love the back ground about them however I will happily swap him out for a seer  Just wasnt sure if I should take a seer at this points level however after what you 2 have said I think I will so the list has been changed
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Farseer 138 points
Spirit Stones RoW Singing Spear Guide Doom (swap for rulebook powers most likely divination)
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10x Guardians with Scatter Laser 95 points
5x Dire Avengers 60 points
Wave Serpant with Scatter Laser(Dedicated Transport for the Avengers who go in it with the Autarch) 115 points
Heavy Support
Warwarlker with 2 scatter lasers 60 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 05:59:58
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Horrific Howling Banshee
Barrie, ON
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From what I see here, you're only sitting at 468. You could swap out the farseer for the avatar and keep him with your guardians, making them fearless. Or, if you'd like to keep the farseer, upgrade the dire avenger squad to include an exarch with twin avenger shuriken catapults and bladestorm for +32, bringing you to 500 flat.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/02/21 06:09:36
...that big sanction stamp of APPROVAL means it's OFFICIAL. No, I don't have to ask you for permission. D-cannons win games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 06:08:46
Subject: Re:Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Emboldened Warlock
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Autarchs are fun. They're great for adding some oomph to a jet council or making sure your air force / outflanking walkers rock up on time. Or also adding some oomph to a 3500 point 19 IC council of death, but I digress.
I am assuming that this is basically the battleforce + an HQ?
Currently you tip the scales at a very underweight 468!
It's an ok start but there are better builds out there. That said - most players short of a DE player will struggle to take down the serpent. I would upgrade the underslung cats to a cannon on the serpent.
Conversely you could leave the dual cats, drop 1 power and stones and get jetbikes for zooming OBJ taking fun times!
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So far the effectiveness of 10 Wraithblades with Ghost Axes:
Tanked 2 Leman Russ squadrons (including the battle cannons and the triple plasma variant); whilst also getting wailed on by everything imaginable in a Fortress of Redemption. Only to get into CC with the tanks and open them up.
2000 points worth of Necrons with Forgeworld additions. Got into CC with a court of Lords and opened them up.
Killed a GUO.
Killed Angrath the Gargantuan Bloodthirster in an Apoc game (with the help of Iranna the Spirit Seer).
Ate a Hammerhead, pathfinders and scored after 3 turns of walking towards a 2000 point Tau gunline and overwatch!
And counting............ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 06:18:39
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yep this is just the battle force + a hq. However as il be buying the farsee +war lock box I am actually considering putting a warlock into the guardians so I have deicded on this
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Farseer 138 points
Spirit Stones RoW Singing Spear Guide Doom (swap for rulebook powers most likely divination)
Troops
10x Guardians with Scatter Laser 128 points
Warlock with Singing Spear abd Embolden
5x Dire Avengers 60 points
Wave Serpant with Scatter Laser(Dedicated Transport for the Avengers who go in it with the Autarch) 115 points
Heavy Support
Warwarlker with 2 scatter lasers 60 points
That should bring me up to 500 points. Il be expanding this force 500 points at a time so when I go to expand it to 1k il add in some guardian jet bikes and il up the dire avengers unit to a 190 man unit. I may also add some path finders in as I feel at 1000 points pathfinders are absolutely brutal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 07:56:17
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos
Sorry can't disclose.....infiltrating
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Autarchs are kind of a point sink unless your running max warwalkers, but even then is probably rather have a seer
Going in you are in the bottom tier of codexes, and the higher points you play the more you will realize you need Eldrad, he is far from cheese, cheese is coteaz who every single gk player seems to make find a home in their list because of a good many, reasons.
The only people who complain about Eldrad are the people who abuse a specific part of the game (psychics in general) which Seers are also apart of with runes.
Warwalkers are your friend make atleast 3 find their way into your list, shuricannons are good and will save you pts if your trying to fit other items in.
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My Armies :
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Warriors of Chaos
Dark Elves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 08:20:24
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well when I expand to 1k il be having 3 war walkers along with more avengers (adding 5 more to the current unit then maybe add another unit of em in aother wave serpant or add some path finders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 23:50:30
Subject: Re:Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Emboldened Warlock
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Your list looks solid for 500 points and the way you want to go at 1000 is great.
I run a particularly brutal 1k list:
Farseer Bel-Annath w 3 Pyromancy powers
5 Wraithguard w Conceal Spiritseer
2x11 guardians with Scatterlasers
2x Wraithlords w EML + lasers
Warp Hunter
That said I go for a very brutally themed list down a very different road.
Pathfinders are murder and great at camping a home OBJ in cover. Be very scared of anything that ignores cover (pyromancy powers, heldrake, sternguard, flamers, etc).
Dire Avengers go down in usefulness as point caps increase, especially as the boards get bigger. They're arguably ok versus bug swarms as blade storm + guide & doom = dead gaunts.
War Walkers are the bread and butter of a lot of eldar players and I can see their pro's and yes - for their points they're great. I just don't use them. One of the best things about Eldar armies is they're great to theme - and the codex itself (until the update) is almost entirely based around themeing and working around that theme - wraiths, aspects, outcasts, bikes, tanks, etc.
Again - Eldrad is good but leave him at home till 1500.
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So far the effectiveness of 10 Wraithblades with Ghost Axes:
Tanked 2 Leman Russ squadrons (including the battle cannons and the triple plasma variant); whilst also getting wailed on by everything imaginable in a Fortress of Redemption. Only to get into CC with the tanks and open them up.
2000 points worth of Necrons with Forgeworld additions. Got into CC with a court of Lords and opened them up.
Killed a GUO.
Killed Angrath the Gargantuan Bloodthirster in an Apoc game (with the help of Iranna the Spirit Seer).
Ate a Hammerhead, pathfinders and scored after 3 turns of walking towards a 2000 point Tau gunline and overwatch!
And counting............ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 00:19:28
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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I'd go for the exact same list (mainly because ts straight out of the battleforce  ) but id swap out the seer for an avatar. At low points is where he really shines, and all you need to drop is the seer and warlock. If you scaledown from scatterlazers to shurican cannons you can put some punch into you dire avengers. Bladestorm even with a unit of 5 can be deadly, putting out 17 shots with exarch. Also i assume your outflanking the Warwalker so range wont be a problem, and who knows, the AP might one day denny a guardsmen his save. I posted almost the same list, ill try find it for you.
*Edit* found it.
Hq
Avatar 155pts
Troops
5 dire avengers w/ exarch (rambo shurican catapult, bladestorm) 92pts
8 guardians w/ EML platform, 2 crew 100pts
[u[Heavey Surport [/u]
Warwalker w/ duel SC 40pts
Transport
Waveserpent w/ TL SC + Underslug SC 110pts
497pts.
I even have some tactics ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/509233.page)  But then again its a matter of preference, maybe you really like your psykic defense more then flaming god monsters with frikk'in WS10(!).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 00:40:40
Subject: Eldar 500 points first ever go at Eldar
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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maybe some jet bikes?
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