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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:22:48
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If a model has an invulnerable save-granting wargear that is shared to other models (such as a Power Field Generator) and suffers a wound from shield-breaker; do other models still benefit from the wargear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:32:15
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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A good question! The shield breaker rules seem to imply that only the model wounded would no longer get a save, the rest of the unit would continue to benefit. Crazy as that sounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:39:15
Subject: Re:Shield-breaker Question
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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When the invun,in your example,the DA power field is destroyed by the shield breaker,other models will lose the invun as well.
You cannot benefit from an invun that has been destroyed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:42:07
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Lieutenant Colonel
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I dont have my gk codex infront of my, but doesnt it say
something like "the model hit by a sheild breaker loses any invulnerable granted by wargear"
or does it say the wargear stops working?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:42:16
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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My problem is I don't have access to the codex to read the relevant rule right now, but some buddies were discussing it and mentioned the model loses the wargear, so for example, a model in terminator armour (which provides a 5+ invuln save) would lose their terminator armour. Automatically Appended Next Post: easysauce wrote:isnt KFF a cover save?
I dont have my gk codex infront of my, but doesnt it say
something like "the model hit by a sheild breaker loses any invulnerable granted by wargear"
as opposed to losing cover saves granted by wargear,
I could be wrong, dont have the codex in front of me
We're not talking KFF (which is a cover save). It's more for DA right now then anything else. Not sure if any other armies have wargear that grants invulnerable saves to other models.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/20 19:43:19
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:44:59
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Lieutenant Colonel
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yeah sry ahppy, I read kff for some reason at first,
ill check my gk codex when i get home, this is a good point to bring up,
Im 99% sure that the model only loses the ++ due to wargear, not any other benifits of it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 19:48:57
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Page 53 Grey Knight Codex wrote: Shield-Breaker: when a wound from this round is allocated to a model, that model loses any invulnerable saves granted by items of wargear immediately..."
Only the model loses the save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 20:07:10
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Lieutenant Colonel
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yup, as per deaths post,
looks like the ++ goes away on a per model basis,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/20 20:25:34
Subject: Re:Shield-breaker Question
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Hellish Haemonculus
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I just read it again, and there is no pertinent information that DeathReaper left out. It doesn't, in this case, make a whole lot of sense, but only the model would lose the save, even if they're the one holding the wargear that gives the save to everyone else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 02:00:28
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Sisters of battle shield of faith 6+ invuln is an exception to the shield breaker rule ViA FAQ
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 02:03:38
Subject: Shield-breaker Question
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Shield of faith isn't wargear.
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