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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 10:45:27
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Rampagin' Boarboy
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Hey guys, just a quick one. The sand on my minis bases tends to come loose, and this bugs me. Is giving the sand a coat of watered down pva afterwards a viable solution? Also, if anyone would like to share their methods for sand basing, that would be nice
Tah,
Afro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 10:49:39
Subject: Re:Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I was converting "lava field" bases to desert bases, i just put superglue (gorilla brand) on a toothpick and smeared it in the cracks then dumped fine sand on. hardens up like concrete but is textured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 11:24:20
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Afrodactyl wrote:Hey guys, just a quick one. The sand on my minis bases tends to come loose, and this bugs me. Is giving the sand a coat of watered down pva afterwards a viable solution? Also, if anyone would like to share their methods for sand basing, that would be nice
Tah,
Afro.
Yes. Although, adding a small drop of dishwashing liquid OR rinse aid to the mix of pva/water. It will help the slurry flow and FILL all the airbubbles, locking it all down properly.
My own method, which isn't a quick process. Glue+sand. Allow to dry. MORE glue+sand. Allow to dry. Mix up pva/water to a milky consistency and add a drop of dishwashing liquid (small drop in a cupful is enough). Mix up - it shouldn't go that sudsy. Apply to sanded base. Watch the airbubbles come up and pop. Allow to dry. This usually takes 3-4 days.
When it's dry, it's like a chunk of rock. ALL the sand is bound to each other. Without the dishliquid, all you are doing is sealing the top layer (surface tension won't let it flow properly into the airgaps). All the stuff I've done like this has remained solid - and when I want to redo them, I just sit them in hot water and let them soak. PVA never fully cures or goes fully waterproof. You can just peel the layer of basing off after a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 13:38:12
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Huge Hierodule
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I use sand on my bases and wash the bases with a watered down mix of Liquitex Burnt Umber and a little bit of PVA glue ... locks everything down nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 13:40:58
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Lady of the Lake
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I tend to use super glue for sand on bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 13:44:12
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Dakka Veteran
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I tend to put the paint on rather thick. Then put the mini in the sand and with my finger press the sand down on top of it into the glue.
Shake and tap off the excess. After a few layers of paints, and varnish it's not going anywhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 15:53:13
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pva then Sand, followed by just enough drops of Clear Polyurethane to saturate the entire surface. Usually this is while the whole thing is still wet, but it doesn't make much difference.
Takes forever to dry, but let me just say, I could hack it against the wall and it won't bust.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 16:04:58
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I always paint my sand to get the right colors and effects, so after all of that and the varnish, it stays on fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 16:17:07
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I use extra cheep superglue from harbor freight for gluing sand down. never have problems again with sand falling off.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 17:22:20
Subject: Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I also use a thinned mix of PVA and paint (helps fill those crevices where spray won't easily reach) to lock down sand (applied initially over PVA). It bonds the sand together rather strongly - you're more liable to break off a large chunk of basing than you are to shed individual grains. Based on my horribly unscientific destructive testing, it takes way more than standard gaming/storage wear and tear to chip it, but if you're worried, you can easily lock down your well-bonded mass of sand by attaching anchor points - small rocks or the like - with superglue before applying the sand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 18:45:54
Subject: Re:Sand, and why I hate using it.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I use a four-step process.
1) 1/1 PVA/Water mix brushed onto the base.
2) Dip in sand, let dry.
3) Use an eyedropper to saturate the sand with a 1/4 mix of black paint and water, let dry.
4) Repeat with a 1/2 mix of whatever color paint (usually scorched earth) I want the ground to be and let dry.
Between the PVA and the acrylic in the paints, the sand stays put very well.
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