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Looking for some help on what to expand my list to 15 Points. With what I've got planned to buy (Below) I've currently got 11 points, if I'm correct.

Warcaster Kaelyssa, Night’s Whisper
Chimera Light Myrmidon
Griffon Light Myrmidon
Manticore Heavy Myrmidon


I have 4 points left, and just need some advice on what to get next (I was suggested against Mage Hunters, so those are out of the window for whatever window.)

personally i really like the Destor Thanes and i think they are 4 points but i'm not sure

Dawnguard Destors? 7. :(

The only reason anyone would suggest for you not to get the Mage Hunter Strike Force is that they don't know how to deal with them and don't want to lose to them. They're amazing and really one of the core ret units.

That said, even a minimum unit wouldn't fit in at 15pts while still using what you currently have. A Destor Thane is a 4pt solo and does a fair amount of work.

As a note, there's a plastic battlebox out just this week with a better sculpt of Kaelyssa and those models in it. So something to look into in the near future.

As for things to run with her, I would actually suggest a few solos, such as Arcanists, a Destor Thane, or a Mage Hunter Assassin in some combination to fill things out ot 15pts.

And stuff.

Some solos to consider.
Arcanist
Mage hunter assassin
Eryiss
Sylys
Battle Mage solo


I would do either Arcanist and eryiss or Sylys and MHA.

Gombol wrote:
Dawnguard Destors? 7. :(

Destor Thane is the solo.

A Destor Thane will work ok in your list.

next, get some a MHSF. they are stupid good. They are why i hate Retribution, sooo much.

They are the only thing thats worse than getting Rahn'ed.

Spoke with another friend, and got a nice 25 point list written out. =)

I'd go max Mage Hunter Strike Force with UA, and 2 Mage Hunter Assassins.

The Mage Hunter Assassins will make you cry as they whiff their swings.
Then that game happens where they connect, and you one-shot a jack or caster.

This makes for a very focused infantry selection.
They kill stuff good with no line of sight needed crossbows.
They get mashed vs AoEs though, with their arm 11.
They have Jack hunter, additional die damage vs jacks, lets them actually do something vs them.

Unless you want a more durable melee oriented element.
Then I suggest Houseguard Halberdiers with UA, and a soulless escort.

They are def 13, Arm 14, they don't look like much. But with shield wall & set defense, the are effective def 15, Arm 18 vs a charge.
They have combined melee attacks, reach and ranked attacks, so they can ignore each other when making attacks, and +2 mat on the charge.
The UA gives them a 3" move after activation, and a once per game +2 mat, +2 damage effect.
Soulless escort helps protect vs enemy spells, with Mage Static, -5 range to enemy spells, and Dis-binding to remove enemy upkeeps.

My friend uses Sylys (spelling?) with her all the time. He also uses Mage Hunter Assasins which are incredibly annoying and can be extremely dangerous.

After a solo or two then MHSF and UA are the way to go.

This from someone who plays against Kaelysa alot, but is not a ret player.

Ossyan and MHSF during feat turn is amazing! I've been wrecking 'jacks with mostly under half the models in a full unit!

Back to the main topic: you should try and run a Manticore and a Banshee together with Kaelyssa. Knocking a large base model on its butt and then attack it with a +3 strgth and +2 to damage rolls Manticore into it's face!

Battlegroup (15 points)
Kae (-7pts)
Banshee(10pts)
Manticore(8pts)
Chimera(6pts)

Or switch out your Chimera for an arcanist, a House Shyeel Magister (movement shennanigans), and Lanyssa for free charges (leaving that tuned-up Manticore with 2 focus instead of speding one for charging and boosting strength).

As others have indicated, YOu should definintally pick up a unit of mage hunter strike force +UA. This is an essental Retribution Unit.

Your question was how to expand the battlebox 4 points. In my opinion i would look at two Mage hunter assasins. Not only are they amasing, you will use them a ton as you build into 35 & 50 point lists.

I would not suggest the Destor Thane, not because they are not good (i have two on my painting table right now), but they really should be run in pairs, and i feel only have a place in a 50 pt list.