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Librarian
-jump pack

Assault squad
-5 additional marines
-2 meltaguns
-1 power weapon

Assault squad
-1 melta gun
-1 power weapon

3 death company
-1 power weapon

Is there any inherant flaws in the list or anything I'll heavily struggle against?
In adding in the next 250pts what should it include? I'd assumed some heavy anti-tank element and to bolster out the 2nd Assault Squad with another 5 men and a meltagun.

From what I have seen this list looks pretty solid. Good that you have metaguns in the squad. I would drop the death company for more assault marines and just have two 10 man squads. I am not sure however if that is equal in points I don't have my codex on me.

Looks pretty good but uh 3 death company? Your giving them an easy first blood. They are still t4 marines with a 5+FnP I'd say drop them and put a priest in the 10 man squad

Sabreguy wrote:
Looks pretty good but uh 3 death company? Your giving them an easy first blood. They are still t4 marines with a 5+FnP I'd say drop them and put a priest in the 10 man squad

Yup.
3 Death Company will get killed VERY fast.

I'll kick out the DC, I forgot to list that they have jump packs though. That's 120pts to spare then, how do you recommend I go about spending that? 2 HF+MM landspeeders? For the next 250pts I'll be adding in my DC, how would you recommend I kit them out?

Some good discussion about what is viable in a 1000 point list, using assault marines as core here

How about lascannons on the devs? Judging from that discussion and taking into account my preference to not take a Stormraven my choice is between devs or more assault marines; if I took more ASM how about adding in a Chaplain with a jump pack? Or are the elite Chaplains not worth it?

BA chaplains are bad. Pretty much all BA ICs are bad except libbies and SP. Pretty depressing, but true.

I've only heard good things about reclusiarchs for a primary HQ they're way outclassed by librarians as they are more versatile?

Anywho, devs then? I'm still inclined towards landspeeders, which were my initial thought before the DC; 2 with hf/mm instead to DS and cause some havoc.

trephines wrote:
Librarian
-jump pack

Assault squad
-5 additional marines
-2 meltaguns
-1 power weapon

Assault squad
-1 melta gun
-1 power weapon

3 death company
-1 power weapon

Is there any inherant flaws in the list or anything I'll heavily struggle against?
In adding in the next 250pts what should it include? I'd assumed some heavy anti-tank element and to bolster out the 2nd Assault Squad with another 5 men and a meltagun.

I'll throw in my suggestion for your initial list!

Librarian (Roll on divination)
Jetpack, force axe

Sanguinary Priest
jetpack

Assault squad 1 (You can combat squad the melta and DOA to blow up vehicles)
5 marines, 2 meltaguns, combi melta, melta bombs

Assault squad 2
5 marines, 2 flamers, combi flamer, power sword

Scouts
5 Camo cloaks, ML

Comes out to exactly 750, lots of scoring units, can deal with armor, and hordes!

What to do when you get another 250 points? A storm raven with hurricane bolters, TLLC, TLAC is around 230 and will REALLY mess with people at 1000 points.




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Martel732 wrote:
BA chaplains are bad. Pretty much all BA ICs are bad except libbies and SP. Pretty depressing, but true.

I agree with this unless you're using Sanguinary Guard as troops or you need to roll thirst.

While Mehphiston isn't an IC, he is very good if he has a land raider to hide behind or a stormraven to drop him where he will do the most damage.

Mephiston is bad too for 250 points.

The core of any jumper list should always start with a JP Priest and 2 10-man Assault Squads.

I don't really like the Elite Chaplains. There are some good points made about the Reclusiarch but it's hard to look past the value and utility you get out the Librarian.

Mephiston is serviceable at 1000 pts. There will be a lot less threats to him at this points level. You're friends may not like you as much though

Nah, I think the nerf to the psychic hood was the nail in the coffin for Mephy. That and he can't join squads to dispense divination love. It's not about what threatens him; its' about what he does for me. Which is now not enough for 250 pts.

Yes, I already know your opinion of Meph. I was sharing my own opinion of him to the OP.

Well, yes, but he needs to understand why I think he's not worth 250 pts so he can make an informed decision. I just report the nerfs, I don't print them. It's not my fault that GW decided to make all BA characters garbage except vanilla libbies and Tycho.


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250 points is a huge investment. Especially for a model that doesn't shoot. Anyone who costs that much *should* be feared like he was in 5th. He's just not good enough anymore.

Martel732 wrote:It's not my fault that GW decided to make all BA characters garbage except vanilla libbies and Tycho.

That is your opinion which is fine. You shouldn't be surprised that others may think differently.

Not surprised at all. I keep running into Mephiston in my local game store. The BA players there haven't gotten the memo

Martel732 wrote:
Not surprised at all. I keep running into Mephiston in my local game store. The BA players there haven't gotten the memo

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion but I would like to reinforce that while you may not be having success with Mephiston there are others out there who can and still use him to good effect. The best way for the OP to see if he is something that can work well in his local meta and his play style can only be determined by him playing the unit! could always just (counts as) his Libby!

I agree with you that he isn't the powerhouse he was in 5e! But he can do just fine in 6th. Plus having a marine sized model that can jump up and chew through a landraider is freaking awesome!

From wrote:
Plus having a marine sized model that can jump up and chew through a landraider is freaking awesome!

I've never had the opportunity to do this but it sure sounds freaking awesome.

Due to significant changes in the list I have re-posted an updated version, please give me more feedback if you could!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/512249.page