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The stock Russ is good because of its usefulness against horde and MCs. The Punisher...yeah it makes quite a mess out of large squads, I have seen it do work against MEQs as well. The Eradicator IMO is overlooked far too often, taking that pesky cover-save away from horde armies has saved my life on a few occasions. A mix of the aforementioned Russes could do you good IMO, gives you versatility on the battlefield instead of limiting you to one train of thought.

Side note, with the stock russ don't bother with the sponsons...With lumbering behemoth being FAQd out of the game, they are pretty useless IMO, just save yourself the points for other things like plasma guns and flamers.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Xadakk wrote:
The stock Russ is good because of its usefulness against horde and MCs. The Punisher...yeah it makes quite a mess out of large squads, I have seen it do work against MEQs as well. The Eradicator IMO is overlooked far too often, taking that pesky cover-save away from horde armies has saved my life on a few occasions. A mix of the aforementioned Russes could do you good IMO, gives you versatility on the battlefield instead of limiting you to one train of thought.

Side note, with the stock russ don't bother with the sponsons...With lumbering behemoth being FAQd out of the game, they are pretty useless IMO, just save yourself the points for other things like plasma guns and flamers.

Your first point is wrong on both levels.

The vanilla russ is worse at dealing with MCs than most other variants, as the most it can peel off is a single wound, while the Punisher, Exterminator, and Executioner are all better due to volume of fire and being able to peel off multiple wounds.

For horde duty, a properly spaced out horde will only allow for 4, maybe 5 models to be hit at the absolutely maximum. The Punisher and Exterminator come out on top again due to volume of fire and being able to effectively use sponsons to accentuate their main gun.

As an old vanilla russ fan from 5th, its a sad day, but the numbers speak for themselves.

I see where you come from. I feel like the range is where you get hit. Having to get within 24 inches makes me feel like you get one or two turns of shooting in before it smashes you apart. Having range IMO is something in my experience that has served me quite well. Now, i have little experience with the Punisher aside from sticking Pask in and throwing it towards any transports i can find. We don't have a single 'Nid player at my local store.

Ill admit i completely forgot about the Exterminator.

Ever since Lumbering Behemoth disappeared i feel like the stock LRBT is harder to use...but then again that may just be me.