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so i was thinking about getting a predator for my vanillia marines, but i want to make a variant that isnt going to sit on the shelf.

i was thinking all las, as i dont have any heavy support for my army at the moment, or doing an Auto-las combo, and then save up for a storm raven, (got to love the collage budget) i was planing to get the storm raven eventually any way, (but its going to be a while)So what are the pro's cons, and overall what is the best predator? or should i just wait a bit and get a storm raven?

I had good luck with my old Chaos army using the triple lascannon predator. It just depends on what your list is lacking in. The autocannon/heavy bolter pred is great for shooting infantry and light transports if you need more weight of fire. One thing i wouldn't personally do is split the role of it. Either go all lascannons for vehicle hunting or go autocannon/heavy bolter for everything else. My current favorite is my BA's Baal predator with assault cannon and heavy bolters, but then my list lacks weight of fire.

Thanks, this confirmed some of my suspicions

If you have a Codex where the tri-las Predator costs 140, it's a very strong option. If you don't, I'd go with the auto/las predator, assuming you are targeting vehicles. Stormravens fill a substantially different role to the point where IMO they aren't really directly comparable.

I like going tri-las Predator in 6th with my CSM. My local gw still has quite a lot of vehicles. With hull points I can glance most vehicles to death on the first turn with some luck on rolls (so far its been holding up on my preds *knocks on wood*).

What do you mostly face in you FLGS? If vehicles or monstrous creatures hells yeah go for it! I was thinking going tri-las for a predator when i finally get one, as there are quite a few of the MC and vehicles in my club...

I like the auto/las personally. Preds are easy to magnetize. A few bucks and a little work will give you all the options.

(edit: dug up my thought I had down in a post a while ago, they still stand)

I'm not a fan of the TLLC turret. You pay 45 points to get rid of the autocannon. IMHO you should endeavor to be flexible when you can. The AC is a wonderfully flexible weapon. I'm a big proponent of the Auto/Las pred. It's 10 points cheeper then the TLLC/HB, but it's guns can actually work together. If you are shooting at a tank, the lascannon sponsons are better, because the both could hit, giving you 2 rolls on the damage chart. The HBs are just going to bounce off the armor. They might get a glance if shooting at something light. The autocannon gives you two more shots that have a decent chance of contributing against all but the heaviest armor. Against hordes the TLLC/HB is better, but that's the HBs talking. If you are taking it for anti-horde work, just run a Dakka pred and save the 45 points.

I guess my TL;DR summery of the 2 all-around preds (the Auto/Las and TLLC/HB) is that the auto/las is better vs. tanks, and the TLLC/HB is better vs hordes.

And while I'm rambling on predators...

Basic, no frills pred, just the AC in the turret.
Pros: Dirt cheep, Still AV13 up front.
Cons: kinda a waste of a HS slot, the HB sponsons don't cost that much more.

"Dakka" pred, AC/HB
Pros: Still very cheep, good vs hordes.
Cons: Very focused on its job

Auto/Las
Pros: good at killing mid-range armor, high T targets
Cons: Jack of all trades, master of none.

TLLC, no sponsons
Pros: It's a rolling twinlinked lascannon behind AV13
Cons: weapon destroyed results. Pony up for the HBs, they cost dirt

TLLC/HB
Pros: I've got a gun for that. Can do everything
Cons: Half those guns are going to be overkill/useless against your target.

TLLC/LC
Pros: Eat lascannons and die!
Cons: The price. A rhino chassis is a little to fragile for this kind of investment, even with AV13 up front.

Auto cannon with lascannon sponsons.

 Kingsley wrote:
If you have a Codex where the tri-las Predator costs 140, it's a very strong option.

Agreed!

 Nevelon wrote:
Auto/Las
Pros: good at killing mid-range armor, high T targets
Cons: Jack of all trades, master of none.

+1

Personal favorite

Magnetize it

 Nevelon wrote:


And while I'm rambling on predators...

Basic, no frills pred, just the AC in the turret.
Pros: Dirt cheep, Still AV13 up front.
Cons: kinda a waste of a HS slot, the HB sponsons don't cost that much more.

"Dakka" pred, AC/HB
Pros: Still very cheep, good vs hordes.
Cons: Very focused on its job

Auto/Las
Pros: good at killing mid-range armor, high T targets
Cons: Jack of all trades, master of none.

TLLC, no sponsons
Pros: It's a rolling twinlinked lascannon behind AV13
Cons: weapon destroyed results. Pony up for the HBs, they cost dirt

TLLC/HB
Pros: I've got a gun for that. Can do everything
Cons: Half those guns are going to be overkill/useless against your target.

TLLC/LC
Pros: Eat lascannons and die!
Cons: The price. A rhino chassis is a little to fragile for this kind of investment, even with AV13 up front.

thank you this was exactly what i was looking for.....

Personally I love my Baal with HB sponsons and my Deimos Executioner with HB sponsons.

Both of them have proved to have some serious punch and initially tend to get overlooked for "more serious" threats (I run mine as a pair of Baals and the Deimos with a Vindicator and a trio of Land Speeders)

 Nevelon wrote:
I like the auto/las personally. Preds are easy to magnetize. A few bucks and a little work will give you all the options.

(edit: dug up my thought I had down in a post a while ago, they still stand)

I'm not a fan of the TLLC turret. You pay 45 points to get rid of the autocannon. IMHO you should endeavor to be flexible when you can. The AC is a wonderfully flexible weapon. I'm a big proponent of the Auto/Las pred. It's 10 points cheeper then the TLLC/HB, but it's guns can actually work together. If you are shooting at a tank, the lascannon sponsons are better, because the both could hit, giving you 2 rolls on the damage chart. The HBs are just going to bounce off the armor. They might get a glance if shooting at something light. The autocannon gives you two more shots that have a decent chance of contributing against all but the heaviest armor. Against hordes the TLLC/HB is better, but that's the HBs talking. If you are taking it for anti-horde work, just run a Dakka pred and save the 45 points.

I guess my TL;DR summery of the 2 all-around preds (the Auto/Las and TLLC/HB) is that the auto/las is better vs. tanks, and the TLLC/HB is better vs hordes.

And while I'm rambling on predators...

Basic, no frills pred, just the AC in the turret.
Pros: Dirt cheep, Still AV13 up front.
Cons: kinda a waste of a HS slot, the HB sponsons don't cost that much more.

"Dakka" pred, AC/HB
Pros: Still very cheep, good vs hordes.
Cons: Very focused on its job

Auto/Las
Pros: good at killing mid-range armor, high T targets
Cons: Jack of all trades, master of none.

TLLC, no sponsons
Pros: It's a rolling twinlinked lascannon behind AV13
Cons: weapon destroyed results. Pony up for the HBs, they cost dirt

TLLC/HB
Pros: I've got a gun for that. Can do everything
Cons: Half those guns are going to be overkill/useless against your target.

TLLC/LC
Pros: Eat lascannons and die!
Cons: The price. A rhino chassis is a little to fragile for this kind of investment, even with AV13 up front.

+1