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While I respect and appreciate your willingness to make suggestions,I just wanted to make a Spider Demon, that looked like a demonic Sil only with a more biomechanical spine, who was originally made by HR Giger.

If we could please read all of our suggestions once over and if they contain sentences along the lines of "please more closely copy GW in order to make it more like something they would make" then please do not share it with me.

I like, GW, and they like me when I am not playing hockey directly on their pond. They want me at least one pond away. (Canadian thing )

... nor would I tap their trees for syrup nor slaughter their pigs for delicious Canadian back bacon.

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/jeremyglen/creature-caster-first-wave/

You mean this?

 Theophony wrote:

 Ctan_Overlord wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Hey, can anyone direct me to the kick tracker for this, I can't seem to find it and I enjoy watching the growth.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/jeremyglen/creature-caster-first-wave/

Thanks overlord, but I was looking for the tracker(chart thing) showing the daily progress of the campaign.

You get that with the 'daily' tab

yanks guys, guess when I opened it I didn't give it enough time to refresh.

Success!


My new card came in today and I rushed to my laptop to finally pledge for this campaign. Pledged for the Vulture and Pincer Demons. I may or may not decide to go with the Plague Demon if he ever shows up, depending on how he ends up looking.

 CreatureCaster wrote:
While I respect and appreciate your willingness to make suggestions,I just wanted to make a Spider Demon, that looked like a demonic Sil only with a more biomechanical spine, who was originally made by HR Giger.

If we could please read all of our suggestions once over and if they contain sentences along the lines of "please more closely copy GW in order to make it more like something they would make" then please do not share it with me.

I like, GW, and they like me when I am not playing hockey directly on their pond. They want me at least one pond away. (Canadian thing )

... nor would I tap their trees for syrup nor slaughter their pigs for delicious Canadian back bacon.

Sorry if I offended at all. Though my reasoning for wanting a between genders demon wasn't just to be more like GW. I've just always thought of demons as being beyond mortal reproduction. Thus any sexual characteristics they have are the result of their actions or desires, thus a demon that finds sexual diamorphism absurd or who represents a unity of complimentary sides would have characteristics of both genders.

tormund wrote:
I know this may sound weird but I think that adding masculine characteristic such as a a flat chest and phallus, while at the same time keeping the overall feminine shape and figure would have been best for exhibiting Giger based influences. It also would have helped for making it a Slaaneshi model due to Slaanesh being both masculine and feminine. I completely understand not changing the model now that it's actually finished, but in the future a hermaphroditic demon would be a nifty addition.

Haven't you heard? Bewbs are the mortal's Achilles heel :-P. If you want your spider daemon to have a wiener, sculpt one on. But please don't force everyone else to have to paint a wiener. I'm not sure they'd be able to concentrate with some messed up daemon junk staring them in the face lol

There's nothing wrong with the Spider daemon model. Please. Don't change it!!

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Haven't you heard? Bewbs are the mortal's Achilles heel :-P. If you want your spider daemon to have a wiener, sculpt one on. But please don't force everyone else to have to paint a wiener. I'm not sure they'd be able to concentrate with some messed up daemon junk staring them in the face lol

There's nothing wrong with the Spider daemon model. Please. Don't change it!!

Why are boobs okay but a dick isn't? Giger aliens are currently being made into a miniatures game and their heads are literally penises. Kingdom Death has plenty of dick monsters. Also I already said that it'd be for a later model.

 CreatureCaster wrote:
?.. copy GW ... please do not share it with me.

IMHO:
Although you may claim to be ponds away - and hope GW agrees - your Demons are already very obviously from their universe (and removing the Nurgle one was smart). As is Avatars of War and others, you are intentionally and not so subtle drawing buyers from the GW crowd (i.e. us). Making smallish alterations (be it multiple or hidden boobs, expressions, tounges or horns) does not make your sculpts any more GW. And, as nothing in new under the sun, you can probably claim to have found inspiration from the same sources as GW has ripped from.

The early sketches of the new Plague Demon do however show a completely new take on a Nurgle Demon (i.e. not an immobile fat one). Bravo.

In order to not face legal trouble, making a few non-GW substitutes (golems, elementals, monsters, other demons, etc.) might be a good idea.

tormund wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Haven't you heard? Bewbs are the mortal's Achilles heel :-P. If you want your spider daemon to have a wiener, sculpt one on. But please don't force everyone else to have to paint a wiener. I'm not sure they'd be able to concentrate with some messed up daemon junk staring them in the face lol

There's nothing wrong with the Spider daemon model. Please. Don't change it!!

Why are boobs okay but a dick isn't? Giger aliens are currently being made into a miniatures game and their heads are literally penises. Kingdom Death has plenty of dick monsters. Also I already said that it'd be for a later model.

I'm not sure how much of Giger's work you've seen but it's kinda messed up. Like A LOT messed up. And I think a number of folks on here would agree with me that Kingdom Death has some pretty messed up stuff too. Plus, Creature Caster already has the giant 4 armed bull headed pincer daemon to cover the male gender.

On topic: Loving the dragon bits that are getting unlocked at the moment.

>Giger aliens ... heads are literally penises.

Noooo!
Do not ruin the best monsters ever created. I have enough trouble with the face huggers...

If you were all getting the awesome warrior demon like me, you wouldn't have these conundrums

 RiTides wrote:
If you were all getting the awesome warrior demon like me, you wouldn't have these conundrums

So happens I am getting the Warrior daemon too . No junk staring me in the face thanks verry much lol. Giant angry Daemon of Khorne/Daemon Prince of Khorne paintjob for him mefinks.

Hmmm, please take my money.... i need to get and paint those dragons!

 RiTides wrote:
If you were all getting the awesome warrior demon like me, you wouldn't have these conundrums

Totally getting a Warrior Demon and sculpting a pair of double-D's on it.





Just for you, RiTides.

Ah miniature wargaming, the one artistic pursuit in which the standard analytical and aesthetic appreciation of the human form is replaced with "EWWWWW, A WIENER! "

[Off Topic] I have been banned from a forum for posting a pic of my Inq28 male daemon host wearing nothing but chains and sigils. Apparently even 28 mm scale genitals can corrupt the younger (?) audience. Worse than meddling with Chaos.[\]

Any pictures of the vulture minion and dragon extras?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
If you were all getting the awesome warrior demon like me, you wouldn't have these conundrums

So happens I am getting the Warrior daemon too . No junk staring me in the face thanks verry much lol. Giant angry Daemon of Khorne/Daemon Prince of Khorne paintjob for him mefinks.

I guess neither of you looked very closely at the sword/axe combo thing



















Made you look

Eh I said all I really need to regarding my love of mighty phalli. On to another idea.

What would you think of a demon that's visibly pregnant and bloated, similar to a fertility idol. Something akin to the first creature in this thread.

tormund wrote:
Eh I said all I really need to regarding my love of mighty phalli. On to another idea.

You really have... moving on would be most appreciated.

So, anyways, any update on when/what the community event for the Vulture minion is going to be?

 kendoka wrote:

IMHO:
...your Demons are already very obviously from their universe.

Interesting...because, IMHO, doing a google search for "AD&D Demon" turns up some very old monsters such as the Baalor, Glabrezu, succubus, etc who might just disagree with you!!!

(And by very old I mean "predates GW by a long shot, and GW drew on them for their Chaos pantheon...")

I suggest that what Jeremy is doing is provably drawing on very old archetypes, not on GW's playground.

And, FFS, leave the Spider Daemon alone - it's brilliant as is.

 Padre wrote:

 kendoka wrote:

IMHO:
...your Demons are already very obviously from their universe.

Interesting...because, IMHO, doing a google search for "AD&D Demon" turns up some very old monsters such as the Baalor, Glabrezu, succubus, etc who might just disagree with you!!!

(And by very old I mean "predates GW by a long shot, and GW drew on them for their Chaos pantheon...")

I suggest that what Jeremy is doing is provably drawing on very old archetypes, not on GW's playground.

Were all those old pre-GW D&D daemons specifically designed to rank up nicely in GW-style fantasy-regiments with 28mm Miniatures too? Funny how I forgot how the old D&D stuff managed that.

Every astute gamer (or elderly one, in my case) knows that I am drawing upon pre-GW references. If a person has never heard of a Balor, Glabrezu or Vrock then I would not expect them to think otherwise.

but... this is how we grow. Veterans in this hobby know what's up, and I am always impressed with their level of knowledge and acceptance.

News about the Vulture Demon minion public events coming later on tonight.

Well, just change up the bases and/or the poses so that they are clearly incompatible with ranked 28mm Warhammer Fantasy wargaming, and you'd free of that suspicion.

Nah, I will keep them the same, unless you own the Canadian legal patent on a 50mil base?

I have been in the industry for ten years and have had fan boys quack at me for that length of time. It is like water of a ducks back at this point.

A pity. You're probably one of the most talented sculpters I've seen. And with 10 years of industry-experience, it be inspiring to see what you could do if you'd choose to do something original, rather than free-riding on other people's labour.

Funny, you say that about me and not about GW. Hypocrite much?

Gary Gygax called and said he wants his demons back.

True.

I'll say it about GW as well.

If Gary Gygax would call GW. would he also need to ring you?

Zwei, back in your box.

Jeremy, allow me to introduce you to Zwei, a fellow who tirelessly courts controversy, apparently to try and generate clicks for his blog.

He is best handled by ignoring, or highlighting the massive holes of logic in his arguments, although the latter may result in your having to witness an inordinate amount of wriggling, contortion and goal post moving, so if you don't have the stomach, just let him shout at a wall til he gets bored.