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Was just wondering what the communities thoughts on the Devastator for Khador is. The stats seem pretty solid for a ARM of 25. I thought maybe adding one to my list, Currently having 2 Kodi's and 2 Juggs. What do you guys think?

The thing to consider is that if it does anything besides Bulldoze it loses its only defensive ability.

Its a decent Jack if you want to disrupt enemy movement, open charge lanes for your other jacks, and want to troll your opponent's heavies with Arm25. It doesn't need a ton of support, which is nice for Khador.

Its just not going to kill much besides some infantry and solos it can catch in its Rain of Death(which leaves it vulnerable to getting killed)

that was exactly what i planned on doing with it. I wanted to run a group of 1 kodi 1 jugg and 1 dev in a pack. each group of three will be support by MOW shock troopers, mechanics and mechanic officer. Just a idea in my head for now.

I hope you arn't running more than 1 pack like that.

Khador really can't handle more than 2-3 Jacks at a time in single caster games.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its just not going to kill much besides some infantry and solos it can catch in its Rain of Death(which leaves it vulnerable to getting killed)

Seriously? A POW 14 to everything within 5" of it, and you are worried about using it because then it might die? Are you playing the same game I am?
What do you get out of it if you don't use RoD?

That thing will go wherever you want it to go, and then it will kill everything that is not a jack or caster. Such as all support solos and almost all infantry.
Then the rest of your list kills what is left.
The only downside is that its a *attack, so some effects and feats can shut him down.

I'm going to try a Kodiak, a Juggernaut, and a Devestator combo. (yes your right, only 3 jacks) Run them with 5 MoW shocktroopers , A unit of mechanics, a mechanic officer. Drakhun (mounted) With this list i will try Sorsha First (with war dog) then try Strakhov (with war dog) Just working with the models i have (spent my "model allowance' for the month the wife lets me have lol)

I think you will have fun using that list.
Kodiak can vent steam also?
So you seem to have a couple anti infantry options.
Just walk up next to high def infantry, use your.special attacks, and they evaporate.

 skrulnik wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its just not going to kill much besides some infantry and solos it can catch in its Rain of Death(which leaves it vulnerable to getting killed)

Seriously? A POW 14 to everything within 5" of it, and you are worried about using it because then it might die? Are you playing the same game I am?
What do you get out of it if you don't use RoD?

That thing will go wherever you want it to go, and then it will kill everything that is not a jack or caster. Such as all support solos and almost all infantry.
Then the rest of your list kills what is left.
The only downside is that its a *attack, so some effects and feats can shut him down.

Are you playing the same game as the rest of us though ? Your devestator is amazing.

The real one...

PoW 18 Blast dmg rull to models in B2B.. and a Pow 9 Blast dmg roll for others within 3".

 Spyder68 wrote:

 skrulnik wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its just not going to kill much besides some infantry and solos it can catch in its Rain of Death(which leaves it vulnerable to getting killed)

Seriously? A POW 14 to everything within 5" of it, and you are worried about using it because then it might die? Are you playing the same game I am?
What do you get out of it if you don't use RoD?

That thing will go wherever you want it to go, and then it will kill everything that is not a jack or caster. Such as all support solos and almost all infantry.
Then the rest of your list kills what is left.
The only downside is that its a *attack, so some effects and feats can shut him down.

Are you playing the same game as the rest of us though ? Your devestator is amazing.

The real one...

PoW 18 Blast dmg rull to models in B2B.. and a Pow 9 Blast dmg roll for others within 3".

Yep. I was wrong about the numbers on the effect.
Was working from memory.
Does that change anything I said about it?
POW 9 vs most infantry is still auto dead. And POW 18?
And it is a huge area that takes hits.
You wipe a high def or low ARM unit, and he has done his part.

I think I was conflating the devastator and Kodiak.
My friend who used to run one had giant paper templates to show the effect.

Not saying its a bad jack.. Im just saying its no where near as good as what you posted.

He is kinda of like the Castigator in Menoth or Rhinodon in Skorne (probably other examples)

point is, Melee Range Infantry Killing Heavies are kinda .... a waste


Even more so in Khador, King of AoE

If I was going to take one of the shell warjacks I would probably run the demolisher (if you have the new plastic kit...but then magnetize it so you can switch from the devastator/demolisher/spriggan (personal preference, call me a reach addict). The demolisher can shoot at range and does have gunfighter, the advantage of the devastator being that you can buy melee attacks after a rain of death

Even if it doesn have gunfighter, remember that it can't both shoot and melee attack in the same activation (since it doesn't have virtuoso).

There's also less of a chance that you'll want to use your guns in melee unless you're dealing with swarms of infantry that are in your face (remember RAT 4.....).

Looking at it I thought that the point of the devastator is to draw enemy jacks forward, as they really cannot let you get close to their infantry. Which in turn makes the attacking jack vulnerable to your second wave.

Then again, I am looking it from the Cygnar point of view, where the army prefers to stand back and shoot instead of charging. The devastator terrifies me, as I rely on high DEF infantry, and I cant shoot it to bits on the way in. Does disruption stop it's ability?

Thank you so much all of you for your input! Being the a.d.d player i am.. i changed my mind and Bought the Gun carriage >.< lol it is a damn sexy model. I plan on running Kommander Karkevich Black ivan the gun carriage War dog MoW Shock troops ,Drakuhn, and Meck Officer for sure, I want to add a unit of mechanics, a juggernaut . My favorite part of this game...The models and painting them.. The gameplay is a super close second.

DrDuckman wrote:
Looking at it I thought that the point of the devastator is to draw enemy jacks forward, as they really cannot let you get close to their infantry. Which in turn makes the attacking jack vulnerable to your second wave.

Then again, I am looking it from the Cygnar point of view, where the army prefers to stand back and shoot instead of charging. The devastator terrifies me, as I rely on high DEF infantry, and I cant shoot it to bits on the way in. Does disruption stop it's ability?

Disruption causes a warjack to lose its focus points, cannot be allocated focus or cannel spells through them for 1 round.


So they can still do * Attacks

 Arrathon wrote:
Thank you so much all of you for your input! Being the a.d.d player i am.. i changed my mind and Bought the Gun carriage >.< lol it is a damn sexy model. I plan on running Kommander Karkevich Black ivan the gun carriage War dog MoW Shock troops ,Drakuhn, and Meck Officer for sure, I want to add a unit of mechanics, a juggernaut . My favorite part of this game...The models and painting them.. The gameplay is a super close second.

That would be Kommander Harkevich

You should also look into getting a Koldun lord. He'll free up your focus for black ivan with Power Booster (if a jack doesn't have focus on it, you can give him one). That way you can boost damage with Black Ivan, who has automatic boosted ranged attack rolls with Harkevich! All you gotta do is power up that juggernaut!!!!