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So what is y'alls opinion on it? Is it worth it to take one?

For y'all that don't have the rule.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/P ... tioner.pdf

Interesting choice if you face a lot of foot armies. Especially 2+ foot armies. Still it's point cost is a bit high for what it does. The Conversion Beamer is a lie. Unless you are playing apocalypse on a huge board, you will hardly ever get the S10 shot out of it. Plus you lose the ability to move and fire so you might as well just paint a bullseye on it.

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They're great if your opponent fields a lot of 2+ saves (Deathwing and Grey Knight players). 3x small blast and BS4 means you'll likely get many more hits on a squad of five terminators than you would with the TL lascannons, and still wound on twos.

Never take the beamer. They don't work. Str 8? Awesome. AP4? Worthless.

CrowSplat wrote:
Interesting choice if you face a lot of foot armies. Especially 2+ foot armies. Still it's point cost is a bit high for what it does.

It's 65pts cheaper than the IG equivalent, you can give it two lascannons and its still cheaper , and base it's cheaper than a Hellhound. I'd say it's rather good for what you'd normally pay for a rifleman dread.

 Vaktathi wrote:
It's 65pts cheaper than the IG equivalent, you can give it two lascannons and its still cheaper , and base it's cheaper than a Hellhound. I'd say it's rather good for what you'd normally pay for a rifleman dread.

However you do lose AV 14, have much weaker side armor, and give up the ability to fire everything if you move. It's not a terrible tank, but you do make some pretty big sacrifices to get the cheapest possible executioner cannon.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
It's 65pts cheaper than the IG equivalent, you can give it two lascannons and its still cheaper , and base it's cheaper than a Hellhound. I'd say it's rather good for what you'd normally pay for a rifleman dread.

However you do lose AV 14, have much weaker side armor, and give up the ability to fire everything if you move. It's not a terrible tank, but you do make some pretty big sacrifices to get the cheapest possible executioner cannon.

Right, I'm not going to deny that, but you're still getting a hell of a discount, you can run 3 of 'em for less than the price of 2 Leman Russ iterations, and they're still not dipping into the "AV12" slaughter zone.

Imperial Guard have by far the Best Armor in the Game , anyone who argues that is sadley mistaken . The Predator is cheaper yes , but i can glance you to death with the standard firepower on my Chimeras ( Multi-Lasers hitting side armor ) and even light TEQ killing weaponary , a Leman Russ is immune to anything short of Strength 9 ( strength 8 can glance but is unreiliable ) sure your Executioner varient is cheaper , however the Imperial Guard if you are faced fighting their armor will crush you under their armored treds -- Your saying you can run 3 Predators for less then 300 Points ?

 Kasrkin229 wrote:
Imperial Guard have by far the Best Armor in the Game , anyone who argues that is sadley mistaken . The Predator is cheaper yes , but i can glance you to death with the standard firepower on my Chimeras ( Multi-Lasers hitting side armor ) and even light TEQ killing weaponary , a Leman Russ is immune to anything short of Strength 9 ( strength 8 can glance but is unreiliable ) sure your Executioner varient is cheaper , however the Imperial Guard if you are faced fighting their armor will crush you under their armored treds -- Your saying you can run 3 Predators for less then 300 Points ?

You're trying to argue a point nobody is making. Nobody is saying that the IG isn't superior when it comes to armor, only that the Predator Executioner is solid buy for what it costs.

Executioner is one of the better FW variants, not just for the firepower but also for the looks.

I have used a FW Russ turret on a predator to try it out and it was a great bit of kit.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Kasrkin229 wrote:
Imperial Guard have by far the Best Armor in the Game , anyone who argues that is sadley mistaken . The Predator is cheaper yes , but i can glance you to death with the standard firepower on my Chimeras ( Multi-Lasers hitting side armor ) and even light TEQ killing weaponary , a Leman Russ is immune to anything short of Strength 9 ( strength 8 can glance but is unreiliable ) sure your Executioner varient is cheaper , however the Imperial Guard if you are faced fighting their armor will crush you under their armored treds -- Your saying you can run 3 Predators for less then 300 Points ?

You're trying to argue a point nobody is making. Nobody is saying that the IG isn't superior when it comes to armor, only that the Predator Executioner is solid buy for what it costs.

Jesus , remind me not to post while wasted
, stupid argument on my part , time for a rational one . Generally I think the lack of Armor will hurt you immensely , a lot of standard infantry weapons can glance weaker armor to death , personally I think you'd be better off with either devestators or regular Tactical Marines , Something that's cheaper isn't always better , flexibility is better than a lot of one unit that does a specific job - Pesonally IMHO you would be better takeing. A lascannon pred as it allows greater tactical flexability as opposed to something that can only injure one class of unit

Corrected link to the Experimental Rules

The Plasma version looks fun to run.

I think the plasma turret is pretty amazing. I use it for my White Scars, as it gives the Predator plenty of dakka without having to take sponsons.

At it's price, we can compare it to a vindicator and an auto/las pred from the standard codex. Both of those tanks are more flexible, with high strength weapons capable of hitting tanks. The vindi has the large blast for killing troops, but it's close range. Having multiple S7 hits lets the executioner do a job on light vehicles, but nothing reliable vs. the heavy stuff. The fact that they are blasts means it can't shoot a flyers.

Vs. heavy tanks it's not as good as it's peers

Vs. light armor it's not as good as the auto/las, but I'd say the range and multiple shots makes it better then the vindi.

Vs. troops it's better then both.

Being able to both crack open transports AND fry the contents at long range makes this a very powerful tank vs. any army that relies on mechanized infantry. And that's most armies. It's peers are more flexible, which suits the modern marine. It's focused on it's job, but that job is one you are going to need in any game. I think it's a little too good for the normal rules, but not outrageously so. It's fair compared in a vacuum to it's peers, but I think on the tabletop it's a bit much seeing how games are actually played.

What sponsons, if any, would be best for this tank?

I didn't mean to imply that the executioner was a bad choice. It just suffers from being a predator, i.e. it's not real hard to kill. But that makes all the predators in the vanilla codex a little pricey.

 Crimson wrote:
What sponsons, if any, would be best for this tank?

I wouldn't put any on it. Bare bones plasma plate flinger!

 Crimson wrote:
What sponsons, if any, would be best for this tank?

The bolters will help vs. troops, which you are already pretty good at. The LCs open up the world of hard targets to you, but if you are shooting at something that requires S9, odds are the plasma is not going to be that effective.

And lets be honest, you are taking this tank for the plasma.

Taking the HBs will help put out extra wounds on the stuff you are shooting at. And they keep the price reasonable. The LCs open up the targets that you threaten, but the points get a little crazy. Being otherwise a one gun tank, having extra weapons helps incase someone gets lucky with a weapon destroyed hit. 150 points for a PD/HB pred seems low for what you are getting. And while you prefer to blow elite troops off the table, sometimes you need to thin out hordes of chaff, HBs help with that.