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Hey guys,

I have a problem finetuning my list. Any and all help is welcome.

It's a semi casual tournament, no restrictions. Only one FOC.

But there are a couple of guys there, that i would really like to beat. Really meta gamers, poor winners. One is either playing grey knights or Necron. And the other is playing wraithguard Eldar.

My List so far:

HQ: 153

Chaos Lord
Mark of Nurgle
Terminator Armor
Lightning Claw & Power Fist
Blight grenades

Elite: 390

3 x Terminators
Mark of Nurgle
3 x combi-plasma

3 x Terminators
Mark of Nurgle
3 x combi-flamer

3 x Terminators
Mark of Nurgle
3 x combi-melta

Troops: 613

7 x Plague Marines
2 x Plasma guns
1 x Power Fist
1 x Rhino

7 x Plague Marines
2 x Plasma guns
1 x Power Fist
1 x Rhino

17 x Cultists
17 x Autoguns

Fast Attack: 510

Heldrake
baleflamer

Heldrake
baleflamer

Heldrake
baleflamer

Heavy Support: 480

Forgefiend
Hades autocannons

Forgefiend
Hades autocannons

Havocs
autocannons
Mark of nurgle

Fortifications: 100

Aegis Defence line
Quad Gun

Comes to 2246 points.

Idea: The Lord stands behind aegis with cultist squad and man the quad gun. he should discourage direct assault on his squad. Forgefiends and havocs provide firesupport, Heldrakes come in and wreck havoc, terminators deepstrike near highvalue targets. Plague marines stay hidden, late game drives up and take objectives.

Concerns: not a lot of scoring troops. Not alot of ap2 or high strength guns.

What do you think?

I'd drop the power fists from the plague marine squads to save points, maybe take axes if you have to.
I would also drop the MoN from the terminators, I don't see it being worth it on 3 LD9 bodies per squad.
Consider cutting those havocs for a lascannon predator. Squad would be cheap and it helps provide more AV saturation while getting you AP2.
With the remaining points, think about adding more cultists.

Thats a good idea. it would give me 94 extra point.

I could bring another 17 cultist with autoguns and come out on 2247.

that gives me:
34 cultists
14 plague marines
2 rhinos
9 Terminators
1 Lord
1 Predator
3 Heldrakes
2 forgefiends

I think that's a stronger list. It still is a little light scoring troops for my taste but it has improved.

Edit: nevermind, ignore this

Exactly what n minigun said- plague knives are pretty good anyway and termicide should be cheeeeap.
Id cut one heldrake and have an extra plasma plague marine squad. Just more balanced imo. though at 2250 3 hd basically plays itself.
Are the autoguns on the cultists doing anything? cut for more cultists?

New attemt:

1 x Nurgle Chaos lord 153p

3 x squads of 3 terminators (combi-flamer/plasma/melta) 336p

7 x plague marines with 2x plasma 1x rhino 233p
7 x plague marines with 2x plasma 1x rhino 233p
17 x cultist with autoguns 95p
10 x cultist 50p
10 x cultist 50p

3 x Heldrakes with baleflamer 510p

2 x Forgefriends with hades autocannons 350p
1 x lascannon Predator 140p

1 x aegis line with quad gun 100p

The autoguns... yeah just mainly there to ad a little shooting, with 34 shoots. even if it's only S3. Something should die.

That's a tough list, I would not want to fight it.

Question: what unit is going to man the quad gun? Wondering if it might be more effective to swap the Rhino for some Havocs, in order to keep them behind the defense line and use the quad gun.

The chaos lord mans the quad gun. Standing there with the 17 cultist. He has no guns only cc weapons so his bs 5 comes in handy.

No more room for havocs, the forgefiends and las-pred fills the heavy section.

But good idea, there was a autocannon havoc squad in the original list. The las-pred toke it's place for more ap2.