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Greatings every one here at dakkadakka I've bin playng warmachine khador for about 3 months now, and I have had a hard time with winning games and events.
So I was wondering if every one here could look at this 35pts list and the models I own and toss me a few ideas and opinions on things i should/can do with this list and the models I have.

first the list I would like to play is as follows
ebutcher tier 4 list
berzerker(6)
berzerker(6)

doom reavers +ua (7)
doom reavers +ua (7)
doom reavers (5)

Fenris (5)
Yuri the axe (3)
Man hunter (2)

35Pts

I am a big fan of the butcher so I would like to run him in events and normal games because I find him the most fun to play with.
As for this list I will need to buy every model on it for I do not have any of them, but I would like some ideas to take it to 50pts and any weaknesses and tips on running a force like this and its playability.
And if posible some tips on making a pButcher list.

The following is the list of models that I have at this time any list ideas for around 25-35pts for what i have or things I should look at getting

pButcher
pSorcha
Esorcha

Eryss mage hunter
Atlan ashly
Man-o-war ST
Assassins+UA full unit
Koldun lord
Widow makers
Grey lord unit
Battle Meks+UA
Man-o-War Kovnik

And for jacks i have
Beast-09
Juggernaught
Destroyer
Devistator (25arm shield guy)
Kodiak

Thanks to every one reading this

Both butchers love them some weapons masters. and jacks that are efficient.

The issue with pButcher in a tournament is that people know him, know what to expect from him and know how to counter it. eButcher is just plain fun to play but hard to win events with cuz of the random focus.....

Here is my favorite pButcher list. I have had lots of fun with it.

The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts)
* Kodiak (8pts)

Doom Reavers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
* Greylord Escort (2pts)

Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)

Kayazy Assassins (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Kayazy Assassin Underboss (2pts)

Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)

eButcher is the bane of melee armies. I run him a lot and enjoy what you can get out of him. I would run @ 35 the following:

eButcher +6
Kodiak (8)
Fenris (5)
Doomies (5)
UA (2)
Doomies (5)
UA (2)
Doomies (5)
UA (2)
Doomies (5)
UA (2)


That is tier 3 and works well. The way to play is everything runs first turn including butcher. Stagger the Doomies so that you have 1-2 in front and blocking charge lanes to the rest of them. This allows you to have 3-4 of them back ready to charge next turn. Fenris hangs back until feat turn and he then either charges or runs to get within 8" of your intended victim so that you can hand him 3 rage tokens to finish off the opposing caster on feat turn.

Remember to always position Butcher so he will be able to activate first so that you can get the maximum feat tokens. i have run this with some success with 2 kodiaks by taking out the 4 UA's but that build only works well against a primarily melee enemy. The UA's job is to hopefully save 1-2 doomies to make it into the ranged forces of your opponent and keep you from berserking on yourself.

oh and don't forget that butcher has a blunderbuss that can get you the conferred rage bonus +2 MAT & SPD for your jacks.

Thanks to both of you i like both those lists im planing on buying all those models any ways but now i know what to get and when and some ideas on running it.