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So I hate that everyone in my meta runs gun line behind an Aegis. I'm sick of it and I want them to pay. What's scarier:

1. a teleporting heavy flamer dreadknight (MSU long fangs, flamer hits 5, kills 1 or 2 and might get an assault off if it doesn't get shot up)

or

2. a 5 man purgation squad with heavy flamers hopping out of a stormraven and saying hello (if each of the 4 flamers can hit all 5, it should wipe them out) and then getting shot up.

First one is more survivable and reliable in terms of speed to execution, but may not do enough damage with a single flamer and will get shot A LOT.

Second is less reliable on when they show up and require a flip to hover mode to properly deploy (putting the raven at risk, but possibly netting more shots) but are far cheaper and do more damage on the first salvo.

Thoughts?

Well, if you plan to do the purgation squad thingie, you are going to use them as a shooty unit only, so I wouldn't bother making the raven hover, and would use the deepstrike deployment that the raven have for the units inside.

The idea was perfect positioning, especially with incinerators. A lot of times that Aegis is up against table edge too, so I can't drop them on the line traced and still be in flamer range. A bad scatter is 100 points wasted.

In that case, I'll invest 140 points more and make it a Purifier Squad, so you have 5 more corpses, 2 more attacks if you get assaulted.

Hell, I'll even add a cheap inquisitor with adivination primaris.

katfude wrote:
The idea was perfect positioning, especially with incinerators. A lot of times that Aegis is up against table edge too, so I can't drop them on the line traced and still be in flamer range. A bad scatter is 100 points wasted.

Thanks to the wonders of Death From the Skies, 10 points buys you a Locator Beacon. No more scatter issues!

Using a Flyer as a counter to anti-flyer weapons seems a bit risky. If the Aegis line is your problem, then a flyer may not survive long enough to get close to it.



The Knights seems to be a far better counter to an Aegis line. The knight can take out their Interceptor guns so that your flyers are able to enter the board uncontested.

i have found everyone save necrons/CSM takes an aegis for the most part now.

so now I take 30 interceptors and at LEAST one dreadknight with teleporter.

have an aegis? now it gives me a 3++ first turn, and im in CC next turn, and since im right up against it (you have a 42" range with first turn 30" move with shunt + 12" deployment) its very likely you wont get the save on all your guys as well.

necron flyer cheese?
good luck keeping 1-2 units on the table when 30 storm bolters with pysammo get to pummle them for one, possibly 2 turns before your army arrives


so far only amry that does well is CsM with drakes, and they do VERY well, but not impossible to beat still