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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 13:45:27
Subject: Dark Angel Sammuel
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If Sammuel is riding in his landspeeder and it gets assaulted, can he fight like a biker would? And if the landspeeder becomes immobilized or wrecked, can he get out, assuming the usual stuff regarding getting out of wrecked/blown up vehicles? Seems to be rare case where a landspeeder has a designated passenger, I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 13:48:37
Subject: Dark Angel Sammuel
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Sammael does not have permission to fight from his landspeeder. If it gets wrecked, he dies.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 16:59:11
Subject: Dark Angel Sammuel
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I'm pretty sure that's why no one uses Sam in his speeder. He would go from a4 wound model to two.
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In a dog eat dog be a cat. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 17:01:28
Subject: Dark Angel Sammuel
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Lungpickle wrote:I'm pretty sure that's why no one uses Sam in his speeder. He would go from a4 wound model to two.
That and he looses out on the ability to drop plasma into a unit before assaulting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 22:39:36
Subject: Re:Dark Angel Sammuel
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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I'm pretty sure that's why no one uses Sam in his speeder. He would go from a4 wound model to two.
He only has 3W on the jetbike.
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-Any terrain containing Sly Marbo is dangerous terrain.
-Sly Marbo once played an objective mission just to see what it was like to not meet every victory condition on his own.
-Sly Marbo bought a third edition rulebook just to play meat grinder as the attacker.
-Marbo doesn't need an Eldar farseer as an ally; his enemies are already doomed
-Sly Marbo was originally armed with a power weapon, but he dropped it while assaulting a space marine command squad just so his enemies could feel pain
-Sly Marbo still attacks the front armor value in assault, for pity's sake. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 00:49:46
Subject: Re:Dark Angel Sammuel
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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To avoid *any* confusion - if you take Sammael in the Land Speeder, use the rules and profile in the boxout for it on page 58, and ignore *EVERYTHING* else on that page, including the previous unit type, wargear and special rules. The new unit type in particular then informs you per normal rules that he cannot fight in close combat (and also no longer has a suitable profile for it).
As for page 59, the Night Halo is the only relic that still applies, and that very specifically states its effect on the Land Speeder.
...if in doubt rules-wise - try to forget that the jetbike was ever even an option.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/03/08 00:50:22
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 00:07:23
Subject: Re:Dark Angel Sammuel
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Thanks for the viewpoints. Re-reading the profile, I see how it plays. I'm building a righteous Landspeeder for him and was working on pose for Sam in the Landspeeder. Using the Storm Speeder model to represent the robust profile. I've been using a regular speeder, but the Storm Speeder is a too beautiful a chassis to not be using in a Dark Angel contingent. Thanks again for the input.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/03/09 00:08:38
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