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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 01:31:53
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Powerful Ushbati
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It has conflicting stats here. It states place a blast marker or other similir sized marker within 12" etc... then later it states it is treated as an immobilized vehicle with the following profile... So if it is a blast marker it would be really hard to get los to this thing. So I come to you all to figure out what is acceptable. To use a blast marker could make this way easy to hide in a building or behind ruins as LOS would be a nightmare. However, it appears a portal is the intent. Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 01:34:16
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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given making it taller offers no advantage, I'd say make it whatever height you want.
GW offered the option of using a blast marker, so using something the height of a blast marker is certainly a legitimate choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 01:36:29
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If anything I would use a 3" diameter styrofoam ball glued to a base of appropriate size. Then painted up to look like a portal to another dimension. This gives you a base the correct size and a portal of reasonable dimensions (IMO) for enemies to draw LOS to.
This is basically what I did for my Mycetic Spores (using a larger ball and base) and then made it goopy by "drawing" lines of hot glue down along the sphere to the base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 01:36:40
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Actually making it tall can offer an advantage if you use something that could screen units from LOS etc.
So long as you aren't TFG about it you should be fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 03:23:31
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Powerful Ushbati
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So I should not expect any rift for deploying a blast marker size base as the portal glyph? Might make it like a portal from the game diablo or something similar with runes along the circle edge.
Now to work out whether they get powers or not because it states no upgrades so I am wondering of pink horrors get their psychic powers.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 03:53:40
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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liturgies of blood wrote:Actually making it tall can offer an advantage if you use something that could screen units from LOS etc. So long as you aren't TFG about it you should be fine.
No it can not offer an advantage, it is just a marker and we are told to "place a blast marker or other similar sized marker" A similar sized marker is close to the same dimensions as the blast marker. However as it is just a marker, and not a unit or something that actually blocks Line of sight, then make it look cool and ignore it for Line of Sight purposes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 04:30:59
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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DeathReaper wrote: liturgies of blood wrote:Actually making it tall can offer an advantage if you use something that could screen units from LOS etc.
So long as you aren't TFG about it you should be fine.
No it can not offer an advantage, it is just a marker and we are told to "place a blast marker or other similar sized marker"
A similar sized marker is close to the same dimensions as the blast marker.
However as it is just a marker, and not a unit or something that actually blocks Line of sight, then make it look cool and ignore it for Line of Sight purposes.
So it being treated as a vehicle doesn't matter? If TFG uses a coke can sized marker we ignore the fact it's a vehicle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 04:34:46
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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If it is a marker it has no effect on the gameplay.
If it is not a marker, and it is a model or terrain it affects gameplay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 04:38:20
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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DeathReaper wrote:If it is a marker it has no effect on the gameplay.
If it is not a marker, and it is a model or terrain it affects gameplay.
Well it has armour values for it's front side and rear.... i'm going with it affects gameplay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 05:05:44
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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liturgies of blood wrote: DeathReaper wrote:If it is a marker it has no effect on the gameplay.
If it is not a marker, and it is a model or terrain it affects gameplay.
Well it has armour values for it's front side and rear.... i'm going with it affects gameplay.
that is weird, as the rules say it is a marker.
but Since it has an AV I imagine it can be targeted and destroyed.
Therefore since we are told to place "a blast marker or other similar sized marker" then it should be close to the dimensions of a blast marker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 05:09:24
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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It's really badly worded, with a little bit of inferrance it looks to be a marker that is treated as a vehicle that has 1 hp. When on the board it allows for the effects listed but can be blown off the board and end that effect. Since it's so flat it is likely you'll get a cover save if you're not being TFG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 05:27:14
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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liturgies of blood wrote:It's really badly worded, with a little bit of inferrance it looks to be a marker that is treated as a vehicle that has 1 hp. When on the board it allows for the effects listed but can be blown off the board and end that effect. Since it's so flat it is likely you'll get a cover save if you're not being TFG.
Yea, and it will not block Line of Sight, as the dimensions will be similar to a blast marker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 10:54:57
Subject: Whats an acceptable model size for a daemon portalglyph?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Its a Glyph, a symbol painted on the floor, its not the rift itself that has to be destroyed, its the surface with the symbol on it.
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