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I have come into a carnifex box, and having a new tyranid army, will probably assemble it rather than trade it. I have the extra devourers to build a Dakkafex, but having a dakkaflyrant , I already died a little inside not having sything bloody blades on my tyrant, and won't let this carnifex go that route if I can help it. which carnifex would you build? what is the best carnifex that isnt quadgunning devourers? is there any that even compete?

I like a single set of devourers and a set of Crushing Claws.
5-7 (6-8 if you charge, 7-9 if you fail IB and charge) Str9 AP2 attacks is yummy.

Expensive but so is the Carnifex overall.

The best non-devourer configuration would probably be a Carnifex with a Stranglethorn and either Talons or Devourers for a generalist gap-filler, followed by the stock configuration of 2x Scything Talons since it is the least costly configuration.

In my own case, I went ahead and built mine with the DoWII configuration of Scything Talons and Crushing Claws after a couple days of agonizing over how to build them. The only thing that really sets the Carnifex apart from a Hive Tyrant is that it has S9 without needing to give up attacks for the high strength, so I figured I might as well take advantage of that and go for as many S9 attacks as I could. Not something I would bring to a tournament, but they occationally do well enough.

Double Scything Talons, Bioplasma, Frag Spines. Good ol' screamer killer. not quite as effective as a dakkafex, but still dangerous to heavily armoured infantry.

The stonecrusher one from FW has a 3+. The problem with canrifexes is that while they are super awsome they are very very painfully slooow, also, you are paying a lot for something that will not do that mutch damadge with 4 attacks even at insane S and also, it only has 4 wounds. It points to T6 wound radio 3+ save is Insanly bad for a codex that already has a problem with this.

Get another 8 of them, and you won't have to care how they're equipped.

 Niiai wrote:
The stonecrusher one from FW has a 3+. The problem with canrifexes is that while they are super awsome they are very very painfully slooow, also, you are paying a lot for something that will not do that mutch damadge with 4 attacks even at insane S and also, it only has 4 wounds. It points to T6 wound radio 3+ save is Insanly bad for a codex that already has a problem with this.

Stonecrusher has a 2+ armour save.

Errr... yes that was my reason to grab him. It came out wrong.

A trio of basic Carnifexes with twin-Scything Talons is brutal. With the new wound allocation, when one is badly wounded you can have it lag slightly behind and bring the others up to the front, keeping your beasts alive a little longer. They are a great target for Endurance or Catalyst (Endurance even more so, because you can recover lost wounds).

I was sort of tempted by Scything Talons and Crushing Claws, but I have actually found that the double Talons giving re-rolls to all missed hits makes them surprisingly reliable in combat. Bioplasma I wanted to run (because Screamer-Killers are awesome), but it just never really worked out for me.

If you face Daemons, you might want to add Toxin Sacks and Adrenal Glands just to make sure things go down (increasing your effectiveness versus high Toughness monsters and giving your more Instant Death reach respectively).

The other fun way of running a trio would probably be to give them all Barbed Stranglers, for crazy long-ranged anti-horde power (and anti-light skimmer too...).

For me it's 3 fexes with regen, 2 brainworms, I usually then cast endurance on them, makes them very hard to shift.

3+ t6, 4 wounds, it will nit.die, regen, fnp... Kind of worth it... Maybe

Formosa that is 660 points. For that ammount the right army can get 660 points of long ranged weapons and kill them, even with the feel no pain.

 Niiai wrote:
Formosa that is 660 points. For that ammount the right army can get 660 points of long ranged weapons and kill them, even with the feel no pain.

Of course, if you're going to go down a Carnifex stampede route, you would do well to do what Tyranids do best and target saturate. A Carnifex stampede would need to be supported; Tervigons are an ideal choice because they pump out Endurance and scoring units. Further, a Tyrant/Swarmlord & Guard unit adds to the head-scratching target priority headache you can give your opponent. It all advances at the same speed, is all fairly lethal and hard to put down. We can even go a step further and start adding Zoanthropes with Telekinesis for Telekine Dome spam.

Tyranids excel at taking a concept and blowing it out of all reasonable proportion. If you're going to go with monsters, go all out and render half the enemy's units sub-optimal.

 Niiai wrote:
Formosa that is 660 points. For that ammount the right army can get 660 points of long ranged weapons and kill them, even with the feel no pain.

I know I know, kinda worth it... Maybe.

I just like gaining wounds back lol

Magnetize it, and get every option. Takes an hour or so, is awesome. Magnets are super affordable on Ebay, the drilling isn't all that hard with basic hand tools, and you get to use all options!

I will never go back to non-magnetized MC's, they are too expensive to limit loadout like that. Just my thoughts!

I gues it depends on the meta. My regular opponent during 5th edition was a IG gunline army. Or a SM gunline army. Very booring to play against.

Magnets all day every day.
2nd most effective loadout? Stranglethorn + devourer.

If we're talking about effectiveness, CC fexes are a waste. Way too easy to focus down as it (or they) ponderously slog up the field, and then don't kill enough when they get there, and cost too much to do all that. If someone is shooting at even a regenning brood of 3, they'd be fools to not be able to put 4 successful wounds to knock one out and render regen useless. Harsh truth.

On the fun side? There are few more badass looking models than a carnifex with 4 massive blades stomping on enemy lines. Crushing Claws are pointless, 2x scytals are about as effective for fewer points. Bioplasma is too expensive. If you're doing Forgeworld then the stonecrusher is great for the improved regen, 2+ save, for a decent bargain in comparison to the codex cc fex.