Two different melee weapons, may I choose which to use?

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**ChaoticBob**

So, if I have read the codex correctly my Chaos Lord may carry a Black Mace and a Lightning Claw. He has 3 attacks, but the extra CCW gives him 4, am I right?

Now, let's say I want to kill something, but don't want to risk rolling a

with the Black Mace (Daemonic Weapon) or I just don't feel like using it. May I then choose not to use that weapon in CC and just use the Lightning Claw? Or do I have to use both weapons equally in the fight? How do I divide the attacks, then?

**DeathReaper**

Read "More than one weapon" page 51.

**40k-noob**

see the More Than One Weapon section on page 51 of the BRB.

Edit: Ninja'd by DR :(

**ChaoticBob**

Of course! I always miss the obvious bits...
Thanks!

**loreweaver**

They both need to be specialist weapons to gain the +1 Attack.

**ChaoticBob**

loreweaver wrote:
They both need to be specialist weapons to gain the +1 Attack.

Really? It doesn't say so in the BRB.

**40k-noob**

ChaoticBob wrote:
loreweaver wrote:
They both need to be specialist weapons to gain the +1 Attack.

Really? It doesn't say so in the BRB.

Look up Specialist Weapons in the special rules section.

**Waaghboss Grobnub**

40k-noob wrote:
ChaoticBob wrote:
loreweaver wrote:
They both need to be specialist weapons to gain the +1 Attack.

Really? It doesn't say so in the BRB.

Look up Specialist Weapons in the special rules section.

He is not wrong you know,.. it does say on P51 that if there are 2 MELEE WEAPONS, you gain +1 attack

And yes, if you have a specialist weapon it does state that then you can only gain +1 when the other weapon is also a Specialist weapon

**ChaoticBob**

So... a Lightning Claw doesn't count as a Melee Weapon and gets no +1 bonus?

**grendel083**

ChaoticBob wrote:
So... a Lightning Claw doesn't count as a Melee Weapon and gets no +1 bonus?

It does, but only when used with another Specialist Weapon. So no bonus when using a pistol, or in the case the Black Mace.

**loreweaver**

That's why the cool kids take a Lightning Claw and a Power Fist for 40 points. +1 Attack and you can pick between hitting on initiative and re-rolling wounds with AP3 or if you need high strength and AP2, you can do that too.

**liturgies of blood**

Cool kids take an axe of blind fury and just go nuts, to hell with the drawbacks the benefits are hilarious.

**easysauce**

pretty sure sepcialist weapons have to be paired with the same specialist weapon, IE two lightning claws = +1 attack, one claw one fist = no bonus

**Happyjew**

easysauce wrote:
pretty sure sepcialist weapons have to be paired with the same specialist weapon, IE two lightning claws = +1 attack, one claw one fist = no bonus

Pre-6th edition you had to have 2 of the same. Not anymore.

**Grey Templar**

easysauce wrote:
pretty sure sepcialist weapons have to be paired with the same specialist weapon, IE two lightning claws = +1 attack, one claw one fist = no bonus

Nope, not anymore.

**andystache**

In the same vein, but not entirely related, the Techmarine with servoharness. Assuming the load out is bolt pistol, power sword, and harness (2 servoarms) how many attacks does he have at what Init?

I can see him having two options: 1 attack at Init 4 and 3 at Init 1 or 2 at Init 4 2 at Init 1 - the techmarine chooses when he receives the additional attack for 2 CCW. I can't see him getting an additional attack at each Init step

**Mannahnin**

Depends on the codex. They each explain how theirs work clearly. In Codex: SM, for example, a servo arm gives one S8 attack at I1, which ignores armor saves. If you take the harness you get two servo arm attacks. They're totally separate from the model's normal attacks with his weapons.

In the new DA codex, OTOH, they've changed how the servo arm works. For them it's a Sx2, AP1 Unwieldy Specialist Weapon.

**andystache**

Mannahnin wrote:
Depends on the codex. They each explain how theirs work clearly. In Codex: SM, for example, a servo arm gives one S8 attack at I1, which ignores armor saves. If you take the harness you get two servo arm attacks. They're totally separate from the model's normal attacks with his weapons.

In the new DA codex, OTOH, they've changed how the servo arm works. For them it's a Sx2, AP1 Unwieldy Specialist Weapon.

I'm working from the DA codex, which as it's worded appear to indicate that the Techmarine has 4 total CCWs with 2 of those being Specialist weapons. So can my Techmarine choose to gain the +1A at normal Init or Init 1 for the servoarms, does he get +1A at both Inits because he does have 2 CCWs at both Inits, or some combination that hasn't occurred to me?

**Mannahnin**

The rules for More than One Weapon (page 51) apply as normal. You pick one weapon to fight with, you use its rules, and if you have at least 1 more weapon to combine with it, you get +1A. Since the DA TM has two specialist and two non-specialist weapons, he's going to get +1A no matter which one he picks.