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So this is just me being bored at work and sharing with you what I'd like to see in future Blood Angels codex. Agree, disagree, share your own idea's, I don't really care, I'm just bored.

the Sanguinor: keep him the same point value, make his sword ap2, maybe let him be joined by sanguinary guard?,

Mephiston: same point value, make him an independent character.

Sanguinary guard: keep point value, allow squad of up to 10

Captain: same point value, give same options as vanilla captains have

Chapter master: being able to take one would be nice

That's about it, thanks for keeping me entertained....

I'd also like if DC Tycho had to be put in a DC unit if there is one. That would be fluffy.

Ironclad dreadnoughts

Masters of the forge.

Lots of predator variants

Some sort of Dreadnought firing cannon

Less nipples and more capes

Less nipples and more caps 8), that might have to be quoted.

Just Mephiston as an independent character would make me a very happy blood angel!!

Make the Sanguinary Guard more useful. They are supposed to be the uttermost elite of the Blood Angels and it definitely doesnt show. Lots of room for improvement like increase squad size, increase initiative, give them VV intervention ability.
Would also be totally awesome if BA could use a single SG as squad sergeant similar to how SW can use their Wolfguard or whaterver they are called.
And reduce the point cost of Vanguards and Death Company jet packs!

 FreddieTau6 wrote:
Just Mephiston as an independent character would make me a very happy blood angel!!

It'd make me happy too... because of majority toughness.

Hmmm, I'd still be okay with it even with the aspect of majority toughness.

 FreddieTau6 wrote:
Just Mephiston as an independent character would make me a very happy blood angel!!

Hurrah! Now I can ID Mephiston with a battle cannon or such.

Sorry, Griddlelol, it doesn't work like that. You always use the individual model's toughness value when calculating Instant Death. You only use majority toughness when working out what you need to roll to wound.

Spetulhu wrote:
I'd also like if DC Tycho had to be put in a DC unit if there is one. That would be fluffy.

I think this is a glaring oversight on GW's part anyway.

In the fluff all DC fight as a single unit that are unleashed on the enemy to die in glorious combat.

But the rules do not reflect this.

Death Company Tycho should have a rule that says he must join the DC and can not leave them acts like an upgrade Chr for them etc...

What I would like to see:

Fast Attack Flyer, but not the Stormtalon.

Something to make Landspeeders a viable choice, like maybe not making them count for First Blood.

Meph needs to be a MC. (He is fine being a non IC).

Assault terminators with TH/SS that cost the same as vanilla terminators.

Tactical marines that do not cost 1 point more than Space wolves and have only a BP/Bolter, where the SW Grey Hunters have a BP/CCW/Bolter

I'd like to see the pure assault marine army become way more viable. They really struggle in the new rule set.

Most changes have already been mentioned but here goes anway:

Rework of The Red Thirst army trait. Its not very exciting and could be way more fun. Something like roll on a small chart for each unit at the start of the game and they gain a special rule of some sort. As an example:. 1- Nothing (sated the thirst) 2- Rage 3- Hatred 4- Feel no Pain 5- Prefered enemy 6- Furious Charge.

Revamp of the special characters. Most are drastically over priced for what they do. Reduce point costs or rework rules to make them worth it.

Way more options on the Captains and Reclusiarchs (no idea why they were so limited in the first place).

Sanguinary Priests, Not bad how they are, however if that chart was introduced they could provide modifers on the chart for their unit at the start of the game, or let you roll twice, or let you choose the result as examples. Might need a points rework for this.

Id love to see Torrent on the Baal Predator, I've played BA for a couple of years now and, without a word of a lie, I've never got to even shoot the thing.

A point higher WS or init on Sanguniary Guard. Again I have no idea why this wasn't already done.

Reduction of Points costs across the Dex to to bring it inline with other codex's.

Razorback spam nerfed slightly (point increase?)

Make the Fast Vehicle rule an optional upgrade.

A codex specific flyer.

Own warlord chart.

 Phiasco II wrote:


the Sanguinor: keep him the same point value, make his sword ap2, maybe let him be joined by sanguinary guard?,

Mephiston: same point value, make him an independent character.

This is madness.
Mephiston is basically a strong monstrous creature, letting him join a squad of 10 meatbags... I mean ablative wounds... I mean other squads would mean he brings all the advantages of... well being a T6 facewreckinguberpsycher with no downsides what so ever... except maybe not having an invul IIRC.
Sanguinor is also quite good as he is.

Maybe I just remember these guys as being already ridiculously strong, but still I think having them in units would be insane.

 Fire_for_effect wrote:

 Phiasco II wrote:


the Sanguinor: keep him the same point value, make his sword ap2, maybe let him be joined by sanguinary guard?,

Mephiston: same point value, make him an independent character.

This is madness.
Mephiston is basically a strong monstrous creature, letting him join a squad of 10 meatbags... I mean ablative wounds... I mean other squads would mean he brings all the advantages of... well being a T6 facewreckinguberpsycher with no downsides what so ever... except maybe not having an invul IIRC.
Sanguinor is also quite good as he is.

Maybe I just remember these guys as being already ridiculously strong, but still I think having them in units would be insane.

I can concede the point for mephiston. Give him a 5++ and I'd call it good. Giving him eternal warrior would just be icing on the cake.
As for the Sanguinor, he's pretty good, but definitely needs to be able to join a unit. He's just a S5 T4 2+ 3++ with eternal warrior. A badass no doubt, but not a game changer.

 Phiasco II wrote:

 Fire_for_effect wrote:

 Phiasco II wrote:


the Sanguinor: keep him the same point value, make his sword ap2, maybe let him be joined by sanguinary guard?,

Mephiston: same point value, make him an independent character.

This is madness.
Mephiston is basically a strong monstrous creature, letting him join a squad of 10 meatbags... I mean ablative wounds... I mean other squads would mean he brings all the advantages of... well being a T6 facewreckinguberpsycher with no downsides what so ever... except maybe not having an invul IIRC.
Sanguinor is also quite good as he is.

Maybe I just remember these guys as being already ridiculously strong, but still I think having them in units would be insane.

I can concede the point for mephiston. Give him a 5++ and I'd call it good. Giving him eternal warrior would just be icing on the cake.
As for the Sanguinor, he's pretty good, but definitely needs to be able to join a unit. He's just a S5 T4 2+ 3++ with eternal warrior. A badass no doubt, but not a game changer.

If he got EW, then he'd have to lose 1-2 wounds in return.

As for the person who said Tacs should be cheaper, you can count on it. They'll probably just copy + paste the changes from the DA Codex.

Cheaper Assault marines - lower the base points cost and maybe also make having extra marines cost less than extra tac marines (ie 10-man assault squad costing the same or slightly less than a 10-man tac squad?

Assault Termies the same cost as vanilla assault termies.

They are supposed to be an assaulty army after all!!!!

Also:-

Different (codex specific?) Land Speeder variants?

Attack flyer - Vanilla marines get the SR, why cant BA get a more assault oriented ST variant or even be able to have the ST but with codex specific weapon options for it?

Dante should be eternal warrior. Actually, The Sanguinor should fly off back into the clouds and give all of his rules to Dante.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Sorry, Griddlelol, it doesn't work like that. You always use the individual model's toughness value when calculating Instant Death. You only use majority toughness when working out what you need to roll to wound.

Ah well, wounding Mephiston on a 2+ woo!

 Ross74H wrote:
Assault Termies the same cost as vanilla assault termies.

Why do you all think this will happen DA have to pay for TH/SS I would imagine it will be that way in the C:SM.

Not trying to troll just trying to understand why

For Comparison

DA TH/SS 49 pts
SW TH/SS 63 pts
SM TH/SS 40 pts
BA TH/SS 45 pts
BT TH/SS No Idea

 captain collius wrote:

 Ross74H wrote:
Assault Termies the same cost as vanilla assault termies.

Why do you all think this will happen DA have to pay for TH/SS I would imagine it will be that way in the C:SM.

Not trying to troll just trying to understand why

For Comparison

DA TH/SS 49 pts
SW TH/SS 63 pts
SM TH/SS 40 pts
BA TH/SS 45 pts
BT TH/SS No Idea

DA TH/SS Termies can score, hence the points increase. I predict that C:SM TH/SS Termies will be the same cost as BA TH/SS Termies once everyone gets updated. For similar reasons, Assault Marines aren't going to get more than a 1 point discount when they're updated.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 captain collius wrote:

 Ross74H wrote:
Assault Termies the same cost as vanilla assault termies.

Why do you all think this will happen DA have to pay for TH/SS I would imagine it will be that way in the C:SM.

Not trying to troll just trying to understand why

For Comparison

DA TH/SS 49 pts
SW TH/SS 63 pts
SM TH/SS 40 pts
BA TH/SS 45 pts
BT TH/SS No Idea

DA TH/SS Termies can score, hence the points increase. I predict that C:SM TH/SS Termies will be the same cost as BA TH/SS Termies once everyone gets updated. For similar reasons, Assault Marines aren't going to get more than a 1 point discount when they're updated.

I agree on the Space Marines going up my point which was poorly made is that we also must pay a five point increase for a Th/SS.

Also they don't score unless you pay for certain HQ's so thats a little more technically.

How about Termy squads that aren't strictly shooty or assault? I like that the DA termies could have two shooty options in a squad of 10 while the other 8 (maybe not the srgnt?) could be rocking TH/SS.

Still though, I'm not to concerned about termies for Blood Angels. Sanguinary Guard are our termies. Let them come in groups greater then 5 and I'd be loving life. Their jump packs counter balance their lack of ++ save, and you can stick a priest with them to give them an extra 5+ save against most things anyway. Not quite at resilient, but they mack up for it with their mobility.

Death Company Terminators, saw a picture of 1 and they could rock the field

Wow... wishlisting for a codex that is not even 2 years old and is reasonably good?

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Wow... wishlisting for a codex that is not even 2 years old and is reasonably good?

My most humble apologies most gracious maker of the rules. Please enlighten me as to the correct and appropriate time one must wait for to begin wish listing for their codex. I'm so embarrassed that I broke protocol by wish listing at an inappropriate time. Again, I'm so sorry.

I'd love to see an imperial codex that doesn't hand out extra niche units to an already niche army ala deathwing knights when Chaos didn't even get an option for cult terminators.

 Phiasco II wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Wow... wishlisting for a codex that is not even 2 years old and is reasonably good?

My most humble apologies most gracious maker of the rules. Please enlighten me as to the correct and appropriate time one must wait for to begin wish listing for their codex. I'm so embarrassed that I broke protocol by wish listing at an inappropriate time. Again, I'm so sorry.

You'd better be.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Wow... wishlisting for a codex that is not even 2 years old and is reasonably good?

BA were amazing in 5th. 4+ cover saves for the entire game and fast vehicles meant they could be in your face by turn 2 and you were dead. Now they get 5+ if they're lucky and they can't assault out of rhinos/razors, they're pretty weak really.

astorath: have him hit at proper initiative. Ap2, but make it where the squad he's joined has red thirst instead of increased the red thirst chances.

Dante: hit at his initiative

add to decent of angels the ability to deepstrike and assault in the same turn.

DC tycho could be an upgrade for DC as well as lemartes. Tycho could be for non jumpack dc and lemartes could be for jumpacked DC.

more captain options.

 dreamakuma wrote:

add to decent of angels the ability to deepstrike and assault in the same turn.

You think an entire army should be able to deepstrike and assault, for no extra cost?

Whatever you're smoking, I want some