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If the unit is wiped out but the character survives does the unit still get to roll for its RP? Assume the character is an Overlord, not a Lord or Cryptek. Thanks!

No. If all that's left is a Character the unit is gone for good. It's covered in the FAQ.

It is also covered 100% directly in the rules for EL models, where it states tehy DO NOT count as RP models for resurrecting RP models. The FAQ just reiterates that fact

It should probably also be pointed out that yes, this means that even having the Cryptek or Lord attached to a unit still alive won't allow you to RP the other models. They may be part of the unit, but that's not good enough for RP.

Which I have always thought was weird in the case of members of the royal court. If they count as our version of a sergeant then why don't they count as a member and if they don't count why do sergeants count for other armies? Ah random decisions...

 Gravmyr wrote:
Which I have always thought was weird in the case of members of the royal court. If they count as our version of a sergeant then why don't they count as a member and if they don't count why do sergeants count for other armies? Ah random decisions...

What I gather (my brother plays Necrons) is that they are an "HQ" choice that doesnt count towards force organization, that play as part of a unit, however are purchased completely seperately. Not like a sergeant that is bought as an option for that specific squad. Its just in the fluff that they are a sort of squad leader.

I'm not completely sure on this, and if I'm wrong then muh bad.

 Gravmyr wrote:
Which I have always thought was weird in the case of members of the royal court. If they count as our version of a sergeant then why don't they count as a member and if they don't count why do sergeants count for other armies? Ah random decisions...

because other armies can repair their dead.

once all the RP models are down they are gone, EL is not RP,

its not that the EL model is or isnt part of the unit,

its that it is not a model with RP

This has nothing to do with it. EL models have RP too.

As above. They quite explicitly have RP AND EL, and then RP goes out of its way to specify exactly what an EL model counts for as regards RP only models

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

because other armies can repair their dead.

I assume you mean can't not can. By that line of thinking no unit with FNP, as RP and EL are basically alternate versions of FNP, should be considered a unit if only their sergeant survives.

I have to take a certain type of HQ to even have a RC then I have to kit them out so they actually help the unit or why bother. After those restrictions I'm told they don't count as part of the unit for RP but everything else is just fine, such as counting for casualties in combat. Just never made sense to me.

Though looking at the rules it looks like if your whole RC is wiped out via shooting or wounds in cc bringing them back one at a time sense there is no unit for them to join then they could join another unit if brought back within coherency of the new unit. Obviously a TFG tactic but possible though obviously against RAI.

^ Sarcasm



Currently I don't think anywhere in the book nor the FAQ speaks about Crypteks and Lords can't bring their unit back.

If he does die then there's only the roll for the Character himself

Regards to OP's question, no ICs aren't part of the group so even if the unit wipes out and he's still alive the unit doesn't get to get back up.

 Makutsu wrote:
^ Sarcasm



Currently I don't think anywhere in the book nor the FAQ speaks about Crypteks and Lords can't bring their unit back.

If he does die then there's only the roll for the Character himself

Regards to OP's question, no ICs aren't part of the group so even if the unit wipes out and he's still alive the unit doesn't get to get back up.

Well, there's the part that "Characters don't count for the purposes of rolling reanimation protocols".

Let me get the exact quote...

Note that characters do not count as part of the unrt for the purposes of Reanimation Protocols- if a character is the only survivor of a unit. his presence is not sufficient to allovv a Reanimation Protocols roll, so remove any remaining counters.

Also note that lords and crypteks are characters, as are overlords/destroyer lords/any named HQ choice.

It's in the "Everliving' rules quite explicitly that models with it do not count as a member of their attached unit for the 'Reanimation Protocols' rule.

I suspect this was done to give people fighting necrons some way of stopping a unit from reanimating in general while still giving it's special characters the option to do so.