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Hi all, just refreshing myself with the ramming rules and came across a bit;

"Cover saves from the Jink special rule can be taken against glancing and penetrating hits caused if a vehicle is rammed."

Would you say that covers the vehicle doing the ramming as well or just the one being rammed?

Thanks in advance!

If the model doing the ramming has Jink, I guess they'd get it. Otherwise they can't get this benefit as they don't have the rule themselves.

 Farseer_Kaiser wrote:
"Cover saves from the Jink special rule can be taken against glancing and penetrating hits caused if a vehicle is rammed."

As I see it, "is rammed" is quite different from "is ramming", maily because you 'use jink' if you are the target, hence you try to evade, but if you are the attacker, you actually want the collision so no, I wouldn't apply it to a ramming, jinking vehicle (aka an attacker vehicle w/ jink).

Since it says 'is rammed' - you must be hit, not do the hitting.

That backs up my interpretation of it also, thanks guys!

It's like asking "Can I dodge a punch, if I am the one giving out the punch?"...Nope, you can't

You can end with a stupid situation by the way :
A is ramming B
A explodes in a mighty fireball because he hit ... nothing, B managing to move away due to his jink save

Or you could look at it like A ramming B but B jinked enough to keep from taking a full blow. The Jink also brought a reinforced section of B into line with a weak point on A causing it's destruction.

If it jinks, it's an antigrav, thus an Eldar / Tau / Land Speeder
Only the Tau ones are a bit durable looking, or you're trying to say that an eldar vehicle has any kind of "reinforced section" ?
They're built out of chinese shrimp chips, not ceramite laced with steel !
I guess it's just another rules resolution that looks silly

Go search through videos of tornado debris eventually you will fine one of a piece of straw or a record through a telephone pole. If you still can't accept that they wanted a chance for something to happen to Rammer then just assume the skimmer was over a rock/debris outcropping and the rammer tore it's own under side wide open.

TanKoL wrote:
If it jinks, it's an antigrav, thus an Eldar / Tau / Land Speeder

or Necron (but not a 'lith).

In the last edition, when a skimmer dodged the ramming attack just "ended".
I would be inclined to go with nothing happened. I would say though that you can't take a jink save if you are the one ramming.

The BRB says, "Cover saves from the Jink special rule can be taken against glancing and penetrating hits caused if a vehicle is rammed" pg 86, meaning you cant ram and take the cover save, only if "a vehicle is rammed" you can take the save

that is a headscratcher....this would be one of the few rules i think cant be accurately explained RAW because the real answer (which is no because it says "is hit") makes 0 sense if the target jinked the ram and you still took damage...from hitting nothing lol.

Sounds like it should be all in 1 save, even though i know its not RAW that way. If the target jinks successfuly the ram is ignored completely for the rammer (definately not RAW but i would accept it)